[meteorite-list] My thoughts on the Arizona Fall

From: Greg Hupe <gmhupe_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:32:07 -0400
Message-ID: <6DF83038BD6043188BCC8095E4E78524_at_Gregor>

Hello Greg C.,

First thing I would do if I were you would be polite to those who you seek
information from! I am sure you remember the saying comparing honey and
vinegar... don't feel bad, I hear there are other's who are "frustrated"
with the finding team's well-earned 'good luck'!!

Greg H.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My thoughts on the Arizona Fall



Im glad you seem to understand where I am coming from, this was not meant as
an attack, just my frustration at not being able to join in on what I would
consider a great learning experience.
When I was told it was being kept secret, I felt pretty upset at the fact
that it seemed to be that something of a high scholl clique only type thing.
I am newer at this and want to take up as many things like this as I can to
better learn and understand things and thought with the gorup out there
currently, I could learn alot while contributing in a good manner.

I have asked many hunters to tag along on trips, becouse I dont know how to
do it and really want to learn. each time I have been told no.

I want to learn how to do this right and if none of these guys are willing
to help me out or anyone else who wants to learn how to do it right, why
should I even stay in this hobby?

Greg C.




--- On Sun, 7/5/09, Jack Schrader <schraderj at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jack Schrader <schraderj at rocketmail.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] My thoughts on the Arizona Fall
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 5:35 PM
>
> Dear list members.
>
> I have today received an email from a person. He sent the
> message to the list and not to me personally so you already
> know who this person is. If he had sent the message to me
> personally, I would have treated it with complete
> confidentiality. I feel that it is important to share the
> information I shared with him with the members of this
> list. Most of the people on this list have been involved
> with the science of meteorites for many years and have
> already gained the knowledge and wisdom that can only come
> from years of experience. This list has been very fortunate
> to have been joined by people who are new to the science and
> to the wonderful hobby of collecting meteorites. His email
> was not sent to be malicious but was sent out of frustration
> and out of his enthusiastic desire to be able to look for a
> new meteorite and to actually find one for himself.. These
> people who hold this intense enthusiasm are the people we
> need in this science, this
> hobby. This is the dream we all hold dear, to venture out,
> find and be the first one to touch a stone that acually fell
> to earth from space. I have copied the information I sent
> to him below. I hope others who are experiencing similar
> feelings of frustration at the present time will benefit
> from this as well.
>
>
> Hello. This fall is a very rare, a very important and
> historic fall for this state and for the University of
> Arizona in particular as the site is very literally in their
> own back yard. It is vitally important that the area be
> protected for only as long as it takes to properly record
> and document the fall. I have seen what happens to an area
> when the location is announced publicly too early. The
> area is almost immediately deluged and over run with not
> only the true professional meteorite hunters who are
> actually trying to do something good and recover the stones
> properly with GPS coordinates and photographic evidence of
> the stones in situ but with every treasure seeker and rock
> hunter and curiosity seeker who could care less about the
> science but more about simply having something cool to show
> off to their friends. This is okay too and there is
> absolutely nothing wrong with this but right now is not the
> time for this. This area is presently
> pristine and kin to a very delicate archaeological site.
> The archaeologists need to do the proper work in the area
> before the "pot
> hunters" find it and destroy any information that could
> otherwise be learned from the site. My intention is
> certainly not simply just for the money or the stones that
> can be recovered. When you really give this some thought,
> you will realize that I did not have to tell a single soul
> about this. I discovered this remote area entirely on my
> own using the knowledge that I have gained over many years
> of hunting meteorites. I could have very easily kept this
> site to myself and hunted it for months and months. But
> the path I chose was simply to do the right thing. I made
> a proper announcement and I have begun preparations for
> conducting a proper search and recording of the fall site.
> Please do not worry. You will get your opportunity to hunt
> the area. There will be stones in this area to be
> recovered for years to come and you will find yours. And
> they will be free, you will not have to buy anything. The
> area as any area where meteorite have
> fallen either in recent or in ancient times is impossible
> to
> hunt out completely. I am just simply asking for a little
> time that it takes to be able to properly record this fall
> site so the information may be available to the University
> of Arizona and to any other institutions and meteoriticists
> in the world who may have an interest in the work that we
> will be doing. It is too important to risk destroying the
> information at this point not only for the science that can
> be gained from the area but for the generations to come who
> may have an interest in learning more about the dynamics of
> meteors and the variety of strewn field types that they
> create. I do appreciate your understanding. My very best
> wishes, Dr. Jack Schrader
>
>
>
>
>
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