[meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD

From: michael at spacerocksinc.com <michael_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:39:10 +0000
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Depends on how bad a collector wants a sample. Most meteorites are worth what the buyer is willing to pay for.
Michael Johnson


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-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:04:32
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD


First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall.
now to the topic at hand...
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I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles.
I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available.
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I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues.
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I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue.
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This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram.
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Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram...

just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall.
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I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of.
People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening.
Secrets and closed door deals never end up good.
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Just my thoughts from the outside looking in.
I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me.
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Greg C.

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
To: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM


First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall.
now to the topic at hand...
?
I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles.
I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available.
?
I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues.
?
I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue.
?
This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram.
?
Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram...

just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall.
?
I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of.
People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening.
Secrets and closed door deals never end up good.
?
Just my thoughts from the outside looking in.
I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me.
?
Greg C.
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--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com> wrote:


From: Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>
Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
To: "<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral..com>" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM




CONFLICTING AGENDAS


Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer.? Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of "WEST" meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring.

Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property for continued hunting.? Mike wondered aloud why Heritage felt they had to make this announcement months prior to a sale in which these consignments would appear.

Mike was not the only one with such concerns.

For the record,? I was also exasperated by the decision to announce this offering at this time and I strenuously objected to the same.? It was too early and could undermine a bigger story in closer proximity to the sale where it would certainly have greater impact.? It appeared the publicist's primary objective was not what was best for the sale of the meteorites but rather how to maximize a corporate branding opportunity. My objections did not fall entirely on deaf ears. I convinced David Herskowitz of Heritage to hold-off until next week when I could at least provide a picture of the larger specimen.

Late yesterday afternoon David reported that his publicist said the story could not be contained and was now on the AP wire.









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