[meteorite-list] west,texas comin' northeast

From: Howard Steffic <bencubbin_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:05:52 -0700
Message-ID: <COL118-W513B707AD26B46FEBDB218B7AC0_at_phx.gbl>

I think we all know why Chicago Steve posted publicly to the list, He always does this to brag. Then when the bragging high wears off, he sells the piece, many times for less than what he paid.
 
I still bet it will be on ebay before he even receives it.
 
This method of operation should be of no surprise to anyone who has been on this list for any length of time.

Howard Steffic


> From: MeteorHntr at aol.com
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:33:36 -0500
> To: stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] west,texas comin' northeast
>
> To: Steve Arnold, Chicago
>
> You are a liar!
>
> I know about that stone you bought.
>
> I have seen the stone you bought.
>
> I know where it was found.
>
> I know who found it, because he was on my team.
>
> I know who sold it to you.
>
> I know what you paid for it.
>
> You did NOT pay $90/g for it.
>
> You paid CONSIDERABLY less than $90/g for it.
>
> First off, it is bad enough that you have the same name as I do, and people
> confuse us all the time.
>
> Second off, I am pissed that I have to take time out of the field from
> hunting to write this email to call you out on this.
>
> What in the hell are you thinking???
>
> Why do you go publicly on the list and lie like that?
>
> I have been asking about and asking directly the very few people that have
> found more than one or two specimens what they will be selling them for, and
> either they don't want to sell them at any price, or if they do, they don't
> know what they will ask.
>
> In a supply and demand world, we don't know what the supply is going to be.
> We have a little guess at what the demand will be, but we just don't know
> how the equation will work out yet.
>
> Of course you can speculate all you want as to what the price might be, but
> you are doing GREAT HARM by making such a post.
>
> And finally, all of us out here are busting our butts to compile strong
> strewnfield data. Part of our work involves getting cooperation from land owners
> to let us hunt. All your public post is going to do is going to give fuel
> to land owners to not let anyone hunt, as they might think they are being
> taken advantage of.
>
> The reason some of these meteorites might sell at a premium is not because
> they are inherently WORTH a premium, but that it is costing a FORTUNE in man
> hours to just find them. If someone spends $1,000 to come out, plus lost
> wages being away from work to find a 10 gram rock, why on earth would they sell
> it for less than $100/gram?
>
> It is not because, as in the above case, it is worth $150/g to the buyer,
> but that it actually cost the finder that much to get it.
>
> You SO don't get this, and I fear you have now caused irreversible harm to
> the ENTIRE recovery project.
>
> OK, enough, I have to get back to picking up rocks.
>
> The Steve Arnold
> (not to be confused with the liar Steve Arnold from Chicago)
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/25/2009 6:18:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com writes:
> Hi and good morning list.First congrats to all the people out in the
> west,texas field looking and finding piece's of the new fall.I hope you find more
> for all the collecters.Well it seems that through various reasons as what the
> price per gram might end being,if dealers or finders of the new fall want to
> sell,it seems that $100 per gram is going to be the going price.Well I got
> lucky!I will be getting a 7.2 gram whole stone for $90 a gram.Still a lot but if
> it holds true,most of the people who found these are going to be holding on
> to them.I want to publicly thank my seller for making this available to me so
> quickly.I look forward to getting it and looking for the classification.And
> if any list members are lucky enough to get a piece,good luck to you.
>
> Steve R.Arnold,Chicago!
> http://chicagometeorites.net/
>
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