[meteorite-list] Meteorite Men

From: cdtucson at cox.net <*cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com*> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: <20091221121306.MDDI2.285904.imail_at_fed1rmwml31> · cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com

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Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
---- MeteorHntr at aol.com wrote: 
> Hey list,
> 
> Just a little note...for the record...for those that are  not aware, there 
> are two "Steve Arnold" individuals in the meteorite  world.  One is:  
> 
> 1.   Steve Arnold, who lives in  Arkansas, who also is the co-host (along 
> with Geoff Notkin) of Science Channel's  TV series "Meteorite Men" who has 
> been full time in the meteorite business for  over 17 years...
> 
> ...and the other is:
> 
> 2.   Steve Arnold  from Elgin (Chicago) Illinois, who is a collector and 
> who is...who is...  well...at the very least, he is the one referred to in 
> this Meteorite List  thread.
> 
> Please don't confuse these two Steve Arnold's with each  other!  
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> On a personal note, I have been a bit too  busy the last few months to 
> respond here as much as I would like.  All too  often I would read an email 
> thread a week after the first post was made and the  issues would seem to be 
> resolved by the time I would get around to reading the  thread.
> 
> Just a note to those of you who are curious, Geoff and I just  returned 
> this weekend from a trip to Nevada spending time with a crew of 20  
> professional TV crew members shooting a TV promotion commercial of our new  series 
> "Meteorite Men."  This last week, when we arrived on to the location  of the 
> shoot,  it looked more like we were coming onto the set of LOST or  CSI as 
> opposed to the normal "Meteorite Men" production "set."
> 
> Normally  we have a much smaller crew chasing us as we have been trying to 
> shoot this  first season of episodes the last few months, but this last week 
> was  different. 
> 
> The production team hired to make the commercial spot is  scheduled to have 
> a various assortment of finished 30 second commercial spots  delivered, to 
> the Science Channel network, to start running by December  30.  We have been 
> told that the spot will run on ALL of Discovery's  channels, and not just 
> on Science Channel.   So, for those of you that  don't have the Science 
> Channel, keep your eye's open for it on Discovery, TLC,  Military, and the other 
> U.S. Discovery channels. 
> 
> Also, just as a heads  up, if the promotion staff of Discovery (Science 
> Channel's parent company)  chooses to go a bit "over the top" with the 
> promotion commercials, and they  choose to use a bit of "artistic license" with the 
> topics that they choose to  produce, we hope the "purists" in our midst will 
> understand.  ;-)
> 
> If  the commercials just run 10 times a day on each of the 10 US Discovery 
> Channels  then that would be 100 showings each day of the commercials 
> promoting meteorites  over EACH of the next 60 days.  I am not good at math, but 
> we can  expect, just from the commercials, for millions of people to be 
> exposed to field  of meteoritics for the first time, from these commercials. 
> 
> For those of  you that have been considering upgrading to get Science 
> Channel on your DIRECTV  connection, so that you can see all of the episodes of 
> "Meteorite Men" come  January 20th,  I invite you to email me OFF LIST to get 
> a special  DIRECTV deal.
> 
> For everyone that already subscribes to Science Channel, I  invite you to 
> mark you calendars (or program your DVRs) for January 20, and for  each 
> Wednesday afterwards for the next 6 weeks, at 9 pm (Eastern) for a new  episode 
> of "Meteorite Men."  (And if anyone on this list is a Neilson Box  viewer, 
> please contact me off list for a very special offer. ;-)
> 
> I think  Geoff Notkin mentioned here on the Meteorite List about the 
> upcoming 2010  Meteorite Mayhem Birthday Bash in a previous posting, but I should 
> add that this  year's Notkin/Arnold event promises to be VERY worthwhile to 
> attend.  So  much so, I encourage everyone planning to come to the Tucson 
> Show, to arrive  early enough to make it in time to attend the big party on 
> the evening  of February 5, 2010.  
> 
> While Michael Blood's Auction is great  to attend on Saturday, the fun 
> actually starts about 24 hours earlier at the  Birthday Bash on Friday Night.
> 
> For those of you who have not attended one  of the Birthday Bash events in 
> the past decade, the gathering is only about 2%  about it being "a couple of 
> guys birthday," and it is closer to around 98% an  event about "an 
> opportunity to mingle and hook up with all of the fellow global  meteorite 
> enthusiasts (dealers, collectors, scientists, etc) that does not occur  anywhere else 
> during the year, this side of the Asteroid Belt."   
> 
> Over the dozen or so years that I have attended the Tucson Show, with  the 
> exception of Adan Hupe's comments here on the list about a bad hotel  
> experience, I don't think I have heard ANYONE else ever regretting taking a trip  
> to Tucson.  I know for some people, in this economic climate, it might be a  
> stretch to justify going to Tucson...however, I can almost assure everyone, 
> that  if you chose to go, it will be one of the best choices you will ever 
> make.  
> 
> I hope everyone on the list that will want to go, can make it. And I  look 
> forward to meeting up with all of you again at Tucson '10.
>  
> Until then, I wish all of you a Merry Christmas, and a happy New  Year!
> 
> Steve Arnold
> www.MeteoriteMen.com  
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> In a message dated  12/20/2009 5:31:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> mstreman at gmail.com  writes:
> Dear Guy I think Bill serves the community at large to remind the  list
> and newbies who know nothing about the real Steve-- so, sorry  I
> strongly disagree that we should all use the delete button.  Steve  has
> contaminated our collections with his fake/mislabeled/  relabeled
> specimens.  Conversely Steve could have spent his time  acting
> responsibly and not being a _at_#&#.  Where is YOUR indignation  at Steve?
> 
> And George?  Is Steve a dealer or not? Sure acts like one  but he says
> he is not one.
> Yeah yeah yeah yada yada ---but how many have  gotten fake meteorites
> and how many have been outright cheated out of what  they paid for?
> --You folks that defend Steve's giveaways are kool-aid  drinkers that
> would accept free arsenic-laced kool-aid and think it a swell  friendly
> gesture because it was a freebie and would defend his right  to
> distribute it with your dying breath.  If I loved art and could  afford
> a Picasso and I wanted to chop it up because it was mine to do as  I
> please--is it morally right to allow me to do so? You Steve  defenders
> think yes it is ok  as long as you get a piece.
> 
> This  "well Steve has never cheated me" comment is confoundedly naive.
> Do you also  disbelieve your parents when they say don't touch the iron
> it is hot and have  to touch it for yourself ?  You that defend him
> because he has never  cheated you personally--or those with memories
> shorter than a few days WILL  be cheated eventually and then you'll
> whine about getting cheated.  You  deserve what you get and it won't be
> sympathy from me.
> 
> Bottom line:  those that defend Steve are either sub rock dwellers who
> are oblivious to the  Real Steve and should gird themselves with a dose
> of reality prior to opening  their mouths  OR they are just unethical
> compulsive enablers that keep  his pathological game play going because
> they do not have the ethics to do  otherwise.
> 
> If anyone else had ran a scam just once like Arnold does  daily, the
> list would be outraged.  Misplaced sympathy for poor generous  Steve
> --held by so many allegedly informed and intelligent folk speaks  very
> poorly about their judgment in general.  MOST children are  too
> immature to play with real loaded firearms but some enablers  allow
> them to do so because it is so cute and charming but most feel it  is
> immoral to let children play with firearms.
> 
> Same-- same --for  distributing meteorites by child-like adults and to
> other child or childlike  personalities People who take hammers to
> meteorites just to give away pieces  to garner sympathy /attention
> would not be allowed to own them if I were  king. Why so many can't
> distinguish St Nick from the Grench in this  discussion is beyond me.
> 
> Elton who is also sick of "well poor Steve has a  problem so we should
> never confront him" liberal touchy-feelly "jello for a  back-bone"
> mouth pieces.
> 
> Merry Fracking Christmas
>  
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