[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

From: MeteorHntr at aol.com <MeteorHntr_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:55:41 EST
Message-ID: <be0.6ea123f8.38603dad_at_aol.com>

Hey list,

Just a little note...for the record...for those that are not aware, there
are two "Steve Arnold" individuals in the meteorite world. One is:

1. Steve Arnold, who lives in Arkansas, who also is the co-host (along
with Geoff Notkin) of Science Channel's TV series "Meteorite Men" who has
been full time in the meteorite business for over 17 years...

...and the other is:

2. Steve Arnold from Elgin (Chicago) Illinois, who is a collector and
who is...who is... well...at the very least, he is the one referred to in
this Meteorite List thread.

Please don't confuse these two Steve Arnold's with each other!

Thanks.

On a personal note, I have been a bit too busy the last few months to
respond here as much as I would like. All too often I would read an email
thread a week after the first post was made and the issues would seem to be
resolved by the time I would get around to reading the thread.

Just a note to those of you who are curious, Geoff and I just returned
this weekend from a trip to Nevada spending time with a crew of 20
professional TV crew members shooting a TV promotion commercial of our new series
"Meteorite Men." This last week, when we arrived on to the location of the
shoot, it looked more like we were coming onto the set of LOST or CSI as
opposed to the normal "Meteorite Men" production "set."

Normally we have a much smaller crew chasing us as we have been trying to
shoot this first season of episodes the last few months, but this last week
was different.

The production team hired to make the commercial spot is scheduled to have
a various assortment of finished 30 second commercial spots delivered, to
the Science Channel network, to start running by December 30. We have been
told that the spot will run on ALL of Discovery's channels, and not just
on Science Channel. So, for those of you that don't have the Science
Channel, keep your eye's open for it on Discovery, TLC, Military, and the other
U.S. Discovery channels.

Also, just as a heads up, if the promotion staff of Discovery (Science
Channel's parent company) chooses to go a bit "over the top" with the
promotion commercials, and they choose to use a bit of "artistic license" with the
topics that they choose to produce, we hope the "purists" in our midst will
understand. ;-)

If the commercials just run 10 times a day on each of the 10 US Discovery
Channels then that would be 100 showings each day of the commercials
promoting meteorites over EACH of the next 60 days. I am not good at math, but
we can expect, just from the commercials, for millions of people to be
exposed to field of meteoritics for the first time, from these commercials.

For those of you that have been considering upgrading to get Science
Channel on your DIRECTV connection, so that you can see all of the episodes of
"Meteorite Men" come January 20th, I invite you to email me OFF LIST to get
a special DIRECTV deal.

For everyone that already subscribes to Science Channel, I invite you to
mark you calendars (or program your DVRs) for January 20, and for each
Wednesday afterwards for the next 6 weeks, at 9 pm (Eastern) for a new episode
of "Meteorite Men." (And if anyone on this list is a Neilson Box viewer,
please contact me off list for a very special offer. ;-)

I think Geoff Notkin mentioned here on the Meteorite List about the
upcoming 2010 Meteorite Mayhem Birthday Bash in a previous posting, but I should
add that this year's Notkin/Arnold event promises to be VERY worthwhile to
attend. So much so, I encourage everyone planning to come to the Tucson
Show, to arrive early enough to make it in time to attend the big party on
the evening of February 5, 2010.

While Michael Blood's Auction is great to attend on Saturday, the fun
actually starts about 24 hours earlier at the Birthday Bash on Friday Night.

For those of you who have not attended one of the Birthday Bash events in
the past decade, the gathering is only about 2% about it being "a couple of
guys birthday," and it is closer to around 98% an event about "an
opportunity to mingle and hook up with all of the fellow global meteorite
enthusiasts (dealers, collectors, scientists, etc) that does not occur anywhere else
during the year, this side of the Asteroid Belt."

Over the dozen or so years that I have attended the Tucson Show, with the
exception of Adan Hupe's comments here on the list about a bad hotel
experience, I don't think I have heard ANYONE else ever regretting taking a trip
to Tucson. I know for some people, in this economic climate, it might be a
stretch to justify going to Tucson...however, I can almost assure everyone,
that if you chose to go, it will be one of the best choices you will ever
make.

I hope everyone on the list that will want to go, can make it. And I look
forward to meeting up with all of you again at Tucson '10.
 
Until then, I wish all of you a Merry Christmas, and a happy New Year!

Steve Arnold
www.MeteoriteMen.com












In a message dated 12/20/2009 5:31:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mstreman at gmail.com writes:
Dear Guy I think Bill serves the community at large to remind the list
and newbies who know nothing about the real Steve-- so, sorry I
strongly disagree that we should all use the delete button. Steve has
contaminated our collections with his fake/mislabeled/ relabeled
specimens. Conversely Steve could have spent his time acting
responsibly and not being a _at_#&#. Where is YOUR indignation at Steve?

And George? Is Steve a dealer or not? Sure acts like one but he says
he is not one.
Yeah yeah yeah yada yada ---but how many have gotten fake meteorites
and how many have been outright cheated out of what they paid for?
--You folks that defend Steve's giveaways are kool-aid drinkers that
would accept free arsenic-laced kool-aid and think it a swell friendly
gesture because it was a freebie and would defend his right to
distribute it with your dying breath. If I loved art and could afford
a Picasso and I wanted to chop it up because it was mine to do as I
please--is it morally right to allow me to do so? You Steve defenders
think yes it is ok as long as you get a piece.

This "well Steve has never cheated me" comment is confoundedly naive.
Do you also disbelieve your parents when they say don't touch the iron
it is hot and have to touch it for yourself ? You that defend him
because he has never cheated you personally--or those with memories
shorter than a few days WILL be cheated eventually and then you'll
whine about getting cheated. You deserve what you get and it won't be
sympathy from me.

Bottom line: those that defend Steve are either sub rock dwellers who
are oblivious to the Real Steve and should gird themselves with a dose
of reality prior to opening their mouths OR they are just unethical
compulsive enablers that keep his pathological game play going because
they do not have the ethics to do otherwise.

If anyone else had ran a scam just once like Arnold does daily, the
list would be outraged. Misplaced sympathy for poor generous Steve
--held by so many allegedly informed and intelligent folk speaks very
poorly about their judgment in general. MOST children are too
immature to play with real loaded firearms but some enablers allow
them to do so because it is so cute and charming but most feel it is
immoral to let children play with firearms.

Same-- same --for distributing meteorites by child-like adults and to
other child or childlike personalities People who take hammers to
meteorites just to give away pieces to garner sympathy /attention
would not be allowed to own them if I were king. Why so many can't
distinguish St Nick from the Grench in this discussion is beyond me.

Elton who is also sick of "well poor Steve has a problem so we should
never confront him" liberal touchy-feelly "jello for a back-bone"
mouth pieces.

Merry Fracking Christmas
 
Received on Sun 20 Dec 2009 09:55:41 PM PST