[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

From: Dave Gheesling <dave_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:27:11 -0500
Message-ID: <CF0A225A215543C4B33969119600C751_at_meteorroom>

Yes Bob. And if said allegations were true, then it would not be an
individual who's integrity was diminished by accepting such freebies...but
rather the integrity of his collection. Authenticity, provenance,
integrity...absolutely paramount to this arena.
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Loeffler
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 11:10 PM
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

Hi GeoZay and others,

>From what I've seen from Steve over the last 2 years (that's how long
>I've
been on the list), he has been a good, upstanding citizen of the Met list,
although yes, he has waaaaaay too many ads.

But, I have seen other e-mails on this list that say that he is a cheater.
For example, maybe he has a met specimen that is one thing, but he says that
it's something else (e.g. the labeling is incorrect). I have never seen
this problem first hand from him, but I think that this is where the
animosity on this list about him comes from. In other words, it's not just
from the constant ads that he posts here. I got a free meteorite from
him... and I'm grateful for that... but from what I've seen, maybe he isn't
careful enough about what he is giving away or selling. I'm definitely not
an expert, but when I got the freebie from him, the label was hand written
(probably by him) and there is no way to know whether it was really what he
said it was. He did not provide a real label from the original seller. I
could sell you a Lunar without a label and there is no way for you to know
if it's really a lunar or terrestrial or something else. Maybe he is the
most reputable guy on this list, or maybe not. Whether he gives away lots
of freebies or not doesn't matter. That could be a front to make him look
good. Or, maybe he really is that nice of a guy. I don't know.

There is a history that most of us don't know about. We are reminded of it
every few months on this list. But, there are always a few people who say
"he treated me well with freebies", but there are those who have been around
long enough who might've been burned by Steve. I'm not saying that it
actually happened, because I wasn't on this list back then, but... if it
happened, then we shouldn't get in the middle of it because we weren't there
when it happened. If someone was burned by him, they should let us know
exactly what happened so we can be aware of it.

Regards,

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
GeoZay at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 6:06 PM
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

>>??No, more like you think he is a great guy for giving you free
>>crack. >>
But he's not giving me crack...just a meteorite. The same thing you and
most people on this list purchase. Are you actually saying that crack and
meteorites are equally bad?
>> Then after you loose your job, family and end up living on the
>> streat,
you realize there is no such thing as a freebie.<< I suppose some folks can
lose their jobs for meteorite acquisitions, but I'm not sure how? I've had
contact with Steven for at least 2 maybe 3 years

now and he's never asked anything of me. Actually, almost all of our
conversations have simply laid along the lines of making arrangements of
him mailing me a freebie.

>>All freebies come with a price.<<

Postage? Actually, he usually pays for this as well.

>> The question to be asked is what is the price? My integrity?<<

I guess that's it...I lack integrity for accepting free meteorites from
him. Dang...I must be a real threat to the dealers. :O) GeoZay

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