[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

From: Becky and Kirk <bandk_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:33:10 -0500
Message-ID: <9E23020DBECD44A9AD8CC0D5EED9D989_at_owner55652f88b>

Blah blah blah---OK---we agree to disagree! No one knows for sure
but----simple life probably started as a soup on Earth made from carbon and
amino acids being brought here by comets, asteroids & meteors.

The rest is the handi-work of progressive evolution, Earth energies
(lightning) and the Divine!
That is what I believe! Try to prove differently! Also---no one knows the
truth about the singularity or what existed before the BIG BANG. Do you?
Open your mind man!
Kirk........

----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Whitmer" <prairiecactus at rtcol.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:40 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted


> The Drake Equation is a prime example of mental masuturbation. It proves
> absolutely nothing. How can an equation prove anything when none of the
> variables are known with any certainity? As Rob points out, one zero
> nullifies the whole silly thing. How about Ne; the number of known Earth
> like planets supporting life=0. If you want dumb equations, the
> creationists have a bunch of them that proves there is exactly one planet
> that supports life. I can make up an equation that proves the existence
> of mermaids, bigfoot, Nessie, unicorns, dragons, what imaginary being do
> you want to believe in? I'll write a formula to prove it's existence. I'll
> be easy, because I already know that life begets life. The Drake Equation
> misses the key concept in the alien debate; mainly how does abiogenesis
> occur? How does non living matter become alive? Once we figure out the
> mechanics of this most basic problem, then we can extrapolate about
> whether this seemingly miraculous event could happen more than once. If
> you're going to believe in spontaneous generation on other planets, you
> had better understand how it happened here first. Someone has to explain
> to me how those left handed isomer amino acids from meteorites organized
> themselves into living, self replicating DNA. (See this thread is related
> to meteorites!)
>
> Crichton summed it up best at a lecture at Caltech :
> The problem, of course, is that none of the terms can be known, and most
> cannot even be estimated. The only way to work the equation is to fill in
> with guesses. [...] As a result, the Drake equation can have any value
> from "billions and billions" to zero. An expression that can mean anything
> means nothing. Speaking precisely, the Drake equation is literally
> meaningless...
>
> And puhleez, don't give me that stupid absence of evidence argument, it
> didn't hold water when Rumsfeld used it for imaginary WMDs, and it doesn't
> justify the belief in phantasmagorical alien creatures.
>
> Mental masturbation is fun, but don't confuse it with real science!
>
>>From the Urban Dictionary:
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> Mental masturbation:
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> 1. The act of engaging in useless yet intellectually stimulating
> conversation, usually as an excuse to avoid taking constructive action in
> your life.
>
> 2. The act of engaging in intelligent and interesting conversation purely
> for the enjoyment of your own greatness and individuality. Subjects range
> from obscure lp's to cultural movements in preindustrial societies. Either
> delivered through grand monlogues or subtle conversation orientation, it
> links large words and random references resulting in nothing acually being
> communicated.
>
> 3. Overly intensive self gratifying procrastination, thought and
> contemplation for a subject not necessarily warranting such effort.
>
>
> 4. The pretense of superior knowledge or intelligence by claiming
> conjecture, theory, feeling or opinion as fact.
>
> 5. The act of engaging in impractical/nonproductive mental exercise /
> thinkings / writings / etc., through which a practitioner only comforts
> oneself mentally. Such acts don't lead to any constructive results what so
> ever in the real world; some might even imagine oneself being transformed
> into superman, or simply the opposite sex, etc.
> In short, it's just bs/crap.
>
> Phil Whitmer
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Received on Fri 28 Aug 2009 03:33:10 PM PDT