[meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:08:05 +0200
Message-ID: <002601ca2812$df96e110$177f2a59_at_name86d88d87e2>

Come on, Darren.

Phil only has to return: Science is the new religion.
And he wouldn't be that wrong.

"Nobody knows what life is" he writes.

Big thing, if I ask my cat, she says: eating, sleeping and a sparklet of
magic, stupid!

If there is life out there, I rather would ask, will we ever know about?

Gosh, I read of travels to other stars, of mankind colonizing other
worlds...

My doubts I have. Our own experiences are, that so far no culture or
civilization existed long enough, to be able to manage such gigantic
endeavours. Some hundred thousands years we were sitting in trees, in the
plains, in caves. Raise and fall. How long lasted Babylon, Egypt, how long
the Roman Empire... USA, French Revolution just happened 200 years ago.
Civilizations grow and they fall in pieces. Even in the so short history of
human existence they were so far nothing more than flickering bubbles.
Wherefrom that optimism?

Homo erectus? 2.000.000 my? Sapiens 120.000 years?

And we have 50 years of television advertising.
And half of us are still sitting in caves.

I guess, we are somewhat to impatient, aren't we?

Let's meet in 300,000 years, then we can continue to call us names like
creationist or conehead.

Best!
Martin

   

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Darren
Garrison
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. August 2009 21:37
An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Alien Contact Predicted

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:13:40 -0400, you wrote:

>nothing but conjecture based on beliefs. Your belief in alien life forms
>sounds religious to me, like you have faith in something you know ain't so.


I don't have "belief in alien life forms"-- I simply do not have a
conviction
that the conditions under which life can form are so utterly rare that there
will not be more than one example in all of the universe.

>
>The probabality of life popping into existence out of non living matter is
>the smallest unit of measure above zero. Just think about it, it's not
>alive, poof!, it's alive.

This only proves the profound depth of your ignorance. Are you really
suggesting that people think a full, living cell spontaneously generated?
More
than ever, I'm thinking you are a creationist. You sure use plenty of their
retoric.

"Life" is a fuzzy term-- it is easy to look at extremes and pick if they are
alive or they are not. An elephant? Alive. A brick? Not alive. But
there is
not a sharp transition between life and non-life. Is a virus alive, or not?
There are well educated scientists who argue on both sides of that. What
about
a prion? It is capable of converting other proteins to it's own malformed
shape. Is a prion alive? You want to understand what scientists think
about
the origin of life? Stop your own mental masturbating and pick up a few
books,
because you are sorely ignorant in the area.

I will ask you point blank, and if you don't answer, then you have answered
it
with your silence:

Do you think life began naturally on Earth, or do you believe it was
"created?"
Because, if the latter, there is no longer room for science-based
discussion.
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