[meteorite-list] Kem-Kem was never the generic for NWA

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 22:02:51 -0700
Message-ID: <93aaac890908092202u241fbae3i64c188acf6d61e57_at_mail.gmail.com>

Dirk, Brian, All,
This came up on the list a while back; from what I understood, Casper
sold those as well as a number of other stones under that name around
that time, and only classified one stone, before grouping a number of
similar-looking meteorites together under that name (I believe the
mentality was that of the meteorite-world pior to the NWA rush, where
not every piece had to be classified to verify its composition). And
while not every piece does have to be classified in many cases, this,
I believe, was a situation in which things were not made certain. I
never got the catalog at the time, bit I do recall there being some
consternation as meteorites were being misclassified/misnamed.
Hence the confusion, as the name applies to a number of late 1990's
NWA meteorites which came out of the area via Casper. I might only
call it a generic name at this point because it is a name that applies
to a number of petrographically distinct meteorites. Single name,
unknown number of meteorites. I don't know if it quite fits the
definition of the word "generic," but if it doesn't, it's not far off.
Regards,
Jason

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM, drtanuki<drtanuki at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Brian and List,
> ?Brian your are incorrect in your history lesson.
> ?Michael Casper announced in his December 1999 catalogue that "a new find out of Morocco- Kem-Kem" was "Found in August, 1999. Stone. Classification pending. Kem Kem, Dahara, Morocco". ?Casper`s catalogue lists:
> 22.4g _at_ $44.80;
> 26.9g_at_ $53.80
> 31.5g_at_ $63.00
> 33.5g_at_ $67.00
> 41.0g_at_ $82.00
> 46.8g_at_ $93.60
> 53.2g_at_ $106.40
> 58.6g_at_ $117.20
> 67.4g_at_ $134.80
> 70.0g_at_ $140.00
> 83.1g_at_ $166.20
> 114.9g_at_ $229.80
> 153.6g_at_ $307.20
>
> In the same catalogue, he (Casper) has a multi-kilo piece photographed, which I purchased. ?Kem-Kem was NOT a catch-all term for the meteorites of NWA (Moroc/Algeria) at the time, as you wrote.
>
> ?So please do not confuse the messy history of the NWAs by INCORRECTLY calling Kem-Kem the orginal generic name before NWAs.
>
> ?I was in Morocco in December 2000- January 2001 for six weeks and at Kem-Kem prior/during the sale of NWA482 in the year of the planetary alignment and eclipse... there were UK-Euro-hippies by the busloads for the huge festival and arrested development.
> The only great "hunter" that I ran into while I was there was Dean Bessey in his Fiat at Merzouga (he dismounted his for shade); prior to Bessey Specks perhaps not?
>
> Missed seeing Mike Farmer, Strope and others; but, I did spot a mad German or Austrian at the petrol stop during the heat of the day. Also missed the Great Habibi!
>
> When in Erfoud don`t miss out on the daily variety of Targine beef, mutton or chicken and 30 glasses of mint tea.
>
> ?At the end of six weeks of wearing Berber you will be blue...Idir met Idir et Kem-Kem! ?Truly an awesome experience to be at Kem-Kem at SunSet on top of a tall hill and watch the winter shadows fall.
>
> ?Forget the Berber Shave and stick with Burma Shave if you are searchingforfun.
>
> ?Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Kem Kem, the original generic name before NWAs, Northwest African meteorites
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:02 PM
>> Here is a link to my 19.7 gram Kem
>> Kem meteorite specimen, originally from Planet Brey
>> meteorites about 9-10 years ago. Kem Kem was the name that
>> was used approximately between 1999-2001, I was told, from
>> our fellow history buffs on the list and other IMCA members
>> for what we now call "NWAs" "Northwest African" meteorites.
>>
>> I added a photo of the original COA/card from Planet Brey
>> just now ?in this auction.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/KEM-KEM-Meteorite-19-7g-IMCA-COA-Unclass-Probably-H5_W0QQitemZ270440268847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef77f042f&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14
>
>
>>
>> Thanks, and clear happy meteorite filled skies tonight!
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> IMCA # 6387
>>
>> searchingforfun ? ? ? ? is my
>> ebay User ID
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