[meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:40:54 +1000
Message-ID: <0E1F79BFDDA44377B39CB82C4A237990_at_JeffPC>

I agree.

It's exactly what was done with Oum Dreyga (Amgala). Or should I say Amgala
(Oum Dreyga)? You know what I mean! ;-)

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gwilliam" <jkg2 at cox.net>
To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>;
<MeteorHntr at aol.com>; <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek


>I think this is a very simple and rational idea that will help avoid
>confusion and conflicts down the road.
>
> Best,
>
> John Gwilliam
>
> At 04:03 PM 4/16/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>> I would suggest that the best way for a dealer
>>to advertise by name would be to start off with:
>>
>> West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>>
>>and migrate with time and familiarity to:
>>
>> ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>>
>>Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like
>>having hip pockets... handy.
>>
>>
>>Sterling K. Webb
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <MeteorHntr at aol.com>
>>To: <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
>>
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>If I write a scientific paper, I will call it Ash Creek. For commercial
>>>purposes, if it isn't illegal, I will keep calling it West.
>>>
>>>After all, that is the purpose of having synonyms is so that you can
>>>call
>>>things by other names, right?
>>>
>>>There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the
>>>community will be confused. Anyone that says "Ash Creek" we will know
>>>what they
>>>are saying. Anyone that uses the "West" name, we will know what they
>>>are
>>>saying as well. Just like if they say it is from the "United States" or
>>>they
>>>say it is from "America."
>>>
>>>I agree with Mark that some meteorites that have already been sold with
>>>the name "West" might get "lost" in the TKW tallies. Some collections
>>>(public and private) will have "West" on their labels instead of "Ash
>>>Creek."
>>>But 75 years from now, it will be just as easy to sort out as "Toluca"
>>>on a
>>>Glen Huss label is from "Xiquipilco" on a Nininger label... they are the
>>>same rock.
>>>
>>>The only confusion will probably be in the collector market, and I don't
>>>think the NomCom cares all that much about the collector market, or that
>>>the
>>>name "West" has been used in all the media references up until now. Just
>>>Google Search "West Meteorite" then search "Ash Creek Meteorite." If
>>>they
>>>did care, the official name would have been assigned within a few days
>>>and
>>>this minor confusion would have easily been avoided. Their priority is
>>>for
>>>the scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things.
>>>
>>>Steve Arnold
>>>Arkansas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>clp at alumni.caltech.edu writes:
>>>Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade new falls within the first
>>>few
>>>weeks of recovery need to be a bit more careful with _their_
>>>nomenclature.
>>>There is a reason why a formal naming process exists (and face it,
>>>"West"
>>>is
>>>a horrible name that should never have been used). IMO, if you're going
>>>to
>>>sell early, you shouldn't give it a name at all, just a description
>>>("the
>>>recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West, Texas").
>>>
>>>I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with
>>>meteorites
>>>in scientific collections, that this name "change" isn't going to cause
>>>any
>>>confusion at all.
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
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