[meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek

From: John Gwilliam <jkg2_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:15:41 -0700
Message-ID: <20090417001555.SIEC16134.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net_at_fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>

I think this is a very simple and rational idea that will help avoid
confusion and conflicts down the road.

Best,

John Gwilliam

At 04:03 PM 4/16/2009, Sterling K. Webb wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I would suggest that the best way for a dealer
>to advertise by name would be to start off with:
>
> West, Texas (ASH CREEK), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>
>and migrate with time and familiarity to:
>
> ASH CREEK (West, Texas), Witnessed Fall, etc...
>
>Very useful invention, the parenthesis; It's like
>having hip pockets... handy.
>
>
>Sterling K. Webb
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>To: <clp at alumni.caltech.edu>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Name of Texas Fall: Ash Creek
>
>
>>Chris,
>>
>>If I write a scientific paper, I will call it Ash Creek. For commercial
>>purposes, if it isn't illegal, I will keep calling it West.
>>
>>After all, that is the purpose of having synonyms is so that you can call
>>things by other names, right?
>>
>>There will be no confusion to me. I don't think anyone else in the
>>community will be confused. Anyone that says "Ash Creek" we will
>>know what they
>>are saying. Anyone that uses the "West" name, we will know what they are
>>saying as well. Just like if they say it is from the
>>"United States" or they
>>say it is from "America."
>>
>>I agree with Mark that some meteorites that have already been sold with
>>the name "West" might get "lost" in the TKW tallies. Some collections
>>(public and private) will have "West" on their labels instead of
>>"Ash Creek."
>>But 75 years from now, it will be just as easy to sort out as "Toluca" on a
>>Glen Huss label is from "Xiquipilco" on a Nininger label... they are the
>>same rock.
>>
>>The only confusion will probably be in the collector market, and I don't
>>think the NomCom cares all that much about the collector market, or that the
>>name "West" has been used in all the media references up until now. Just
>>Google Search "West Meteorite" then search "Ash Creek Meteorite." If they
>>did care, the official name would have been assigned within a few days and
>>this minor confusion would have easily been avoided. Their priority is for
>>the scientific side of things, not the pop culture side of things.
>>
>>Steve Arnold
>>Arkansas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 4/16/2009 11:33:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>clp at alumni.caltech.edu writes:
>>Perhaps those who seek to commercially trade new falls within the first
>>few
>>weeks of recovery need to be a bit more careful with _their_ nomenclature.
>>There is a reason why a formal naming process exists (and face it, "West"
>>is
>>a horrible name that should never have been used). IMO, if you're going to
>>sell early, you shouldn't give it a name at all, just a description ("the
>>recent, as-yet-unnamed fall near West, Texas").
>>
>>I can say with some confidence, as somebody who only deals with meteorites
>>in scientific collections, that this name "change" isn't going to cause
>>any
>>confusion at all.
>>
>>Chris
>>
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Received on Thu 16 Apr 2009 08:15:41 PM PDT