[meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:41:51 +1100
Message-ID: <F576A18F765E422B9440822E34C47D24_at_JeffPC>

This is NOT true at all!!!

I was approached by Mitch Minor quite some time ago to purchase some of his
pieces. I knew they were clearly not meteorites but he insisted Ted had said
they were. On chatting to Ted he said this was not the case at all and that
all the specimens he'd been sent were terrestrial which Mitch was told and
then told again after contacting me.

This guys indiscretions go back years and is well known to us. Remember the
"planetary" specimens on ebay for hundreds of thousands? Same person! Have a
look at Ken's page here:

http://meteorite-identification.com/ebay/minor.html
http://meteorite-identification.com/ebay/m_minor.html

Ohh... and here's a page of Randy Korotev's that mentions Mitch's pieces:

http://meteorites.wustl.edu/meteorwrongs/m239.htm

Cheers,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au
Director - I.M.C.A. Inc.
www.imca.cc




----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia Harris" <meteorhound at yahoo.com>
To: "Ted Bunch" <tbear1 at cableone.net>; <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?


> Back in 2005 Ted Bunch confirmed this specimen as a 100% meteorite, and he
> was suppose to classify this meteorite, and publish it. I waited 9 months
> for classification but Ted never completed it. Since then many tests have
> been completed to support my classification for this Lunar meteorite
> specimen. All tests completed offer facts and support for my
> classification. The Mineral Chemistry End Members, and Isotopic
> measurements Oxygen Isotopes are all within Lunar Mineralogy, and Lunar
> Isotopic fields. Geochemists, and Scientists have studied this Lunar
> Specimen , and they are in agreement with my classification. If you have
> other questions please feel free to contact me. Mitch Minor office
> (815)740-3834 cell(815)545-5803
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Unusual new lunar or hokum?
>> To: michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 4:06 PM
>> Hi Mike - I concur, the whole picture looks strange to me. A
>> 5 ton lunar
>> meteorite in one piece? Where were the O2 analyses done?
>> There are only a
>> few trustworthy labs that can do O2 analyses. In any case,
>> I don't think the
>> reported O2 data are that discriminating between lunar and
>> terrestrial.
>> Some of the mineralogy looks OK, some does not. The plotted
>> major oxide
>> compositional data look impressive for lunar origin, but
>> there are
>> terrestrial mafic compositions that are just as
>> lunar-looking. The hand
>> sample surface is very irregular and looks more like a
>> weathered terrestrial
>> surface than fusion crust.
>>
>> Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, but it doesn't
>> quack like a duck. My
>> advice is to wait until it has been officially classified
>> and/or Randy
>> Korotev has looked it over before buying a piece. I also
>> suggest that the
>> Starchaser group do FeO/MnO ratios on olivine and pyroxene.
>> These ratios are
>> discriminating and can save everyone a lot of trouble. My
>> guess is that this
>> "lunar" is a glacial erratic from Canada.
>>
>> Buyer beware,
>>
>> Ted Bunch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/3/08 7:06 AM, "Michael Gilmer"
>> <michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Group!
>> >
>> > I ran across this one on eBay today :
>> >
>> >
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350119620351
>> >
>> > Something about it doesn't ring true.
>> >
>> > There is a lot of quasi-scientific mumbo jumbo in the
>> listing.
>> >
>> > Is this for real or some highly-misinformed
>> individual?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > MikeG
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> .........................................................
>> > Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
>> > Member of the Meteoritical Society.
>> > Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
>> > Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and
>> http://www.glassthrower.com
>> > MySpace -
>> http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
>> >
>> ..........................................................
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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