[meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????

From: STARSANDSCOPES at aol.com <STARSANDSCOPES_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 11:21:21 EDT
Message-ID: <c59.2e2a0d72.354f2e71_at_aol.com>

Thanks Greg, Beautiful photos! Every one interested in this material
should check them out. I like the slice of "Blue" with an attached rhyolite
pebble. http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg

It is one thing to look at this material now with the knowledge of what it
is. I can only call it astonishment when you cut into one like is shown in
Greg's image. But Greg, what was it like to cut into a blue meteorite when it
was new! I'm sure you had ideas of what it was but this was before any
classification/analysis had been done. What did you think when the first blue
meteorite was cut?

Tom Phillips


In a message dated 5/4/2008 9:14:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
gmhupe at htn.net writes:
Hi Tom, Pete and List,



Tom has been doing a fantastic job with his studies and I thank him for his
tireless efforts and for sharing with us. Before the realization that NWA
2828, Al Haggounia and the other pairings to NWA 2828 were found to be an
EL3 and NOT an aubrite, I spent many trips to Morocco buying up the "Blue"
material. Needless to say, I have several kilos of the "Blue" EL3 material,
one of the lucky first-in buyers, not price-wise but material-wise :-)



Here are some additional photo links of NWA 2828 "Blue", most have seen
these as they are the ones I have with my eBay description of NWA 2828.



Photograph of a 24.9g NWA 2828 slice with rhyolite pebble (image 1):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828pebble.jpg



Photograph of magnified radial pyroxene chondrule (image 2):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828chondrule.jpg



Photograph of magnified whitish enstatite-rich clast (image 3):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828clast.jpg



Photograph of a 14.3g complete slice of NWA 2828 (image 4):

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2828/nwa2828slice.jpg



Enjoy!
Greg

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----- Original Message -----
From: <STARSANDSCOPES at aol.com>
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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New or maybe old QUESTION??????


> Hi Pete, IF you are looking for an affordable sample check out Al
> Hagounia.
> It matches your criteria and it is an Enstatite. NAU recently posted a
> paper on their web site that nicely covers what it is, the terrestrial
> alteration it has undergone, and it's location in the layers of sediment.
> http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Al_Haggounia.html
>
> The stuff is ugly on the outside but I have cut quite a few slices and it
 
> is
> interesting when cut. It takes a polish quite nicely. When you happen
> to
> cut into a large radial chondrule it is beautiful. A sea of fine grain
> brown
> with only one big fan shaped chondrule. Those polished examples make a
> nice
> display. Some times you get a "Blue" one! The Blue phase, NWA 2828 is
> an
> example, can be found mixed with the brown in the same slice. That is
> not
> common so it is fun when you find one. The best part is it is cheap
> because
> there is plenty to go around.
>
> Tom Phillips
>
> In a message dated 5/4/2008 1:09:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> pshugar at clearwire.net writes:
> List,
> Maybe this has been asked and answered (sounds like a lawer thing) and
> maybe
> not.
> Since I am relatively new to collecting and certainly not an Expert in
> any
> area of meteorite study (with the exception of magnetisum (from the sky
> magnetic VS made a magnet by processes here on earth).
> Here's my question:
> A geologist digs in an area that he thinks there will be the likelyhood
> of
> finding a fossil. Maybe he gets lucky and maybe finds bunches of them.
> Has anyone ever found a meteorite buried deep in a layer that is
> thousands
> or even millions of years old?
> Years ago--long before I became an obsessed, crazed, meteorite addict,
> while teaching a series on earthquakes, I had found a video of a
> scientist
> standing with one foot on the Pacific plate and the other foot on the
> North
> Americian plate, ie astraddle of the San Andreas fault line. In back of
> him
> was a small vertical clift of maybe 10 feet and you could plainly see the
> shift (approx 15 inches) in the layers of sediment.
> Now I've got to thinking (some say this is my problem--Thinking) that
> these
> meteorites have a tremendous terestial age. If the earth is bombarded by
> these meteorites throughout the aeons, then there should be a record, ie
> evidence in the form of buried craters (see the Odessa,Tx crater) --
> Approx
> 100 to 110 feet deep that has been filled in till it is only 25 to 30
> feet
> deep now due to wind blown sand (mostly). I've got a pamplet of
> "Occasional
> Papers of the Strecker Museum" from Baylor University showing a neat
> cross
> section of the Odessa Crater.
> How much investigation into the cross section structure of the sediment
> layers, looking for evidence of craters has been done? Has there ever
> been
> an accidential discovery of a buried crater in a clift side. Lots of
> these
> erroded mesa exist out west. Maybe evidence is visable there.
> Surely Valeria is not the only animal killer out there.
> Maybe another animal drilled by a passing meteorite with the coresponding
> meteorite near the body. Maybe there's no body but the meteorite is still
> there buried in the deeper layers of sediment. Maybe tektites are the
> only
> surviving evidence.
> In a nutshell, has there ever been a meteorite found at a depth of
> sediment
> that is plainly very old?
> Pete
>
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