[meteorite-list] meteorites vs meteoritic shale and Ebay Dealer wannabes.
From: Mike Jensen <meteoriteplaya_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:10:34 -0700 Message-ID: <6f9da8300803040610q53b49c4dp20f3c0a9c3b47b93_at_mail.gmail.com> Hi Michael There are several changes coming to the Ebay feedback system. One that will address the retaliation feedback is number 2; http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/new.html What changes are being made to the eBay Feedback system? There are five key elements to the new Feedback system being introduced in the first half of 2008: 1. Beginning in February, buyers and sellers will be able to earn up to one Feedback per week from the same trading partner. Today, members may only affect each other's Feedback scores one time, regardless of the number of transactions between the parties. This change will both encourage repeat transactions and reward good service. 2. Sellers will no longer be able to leave negative or neutral Feedback for buyers. This change will occur in May, 2008. 3. Removal of negative and neutral Feedback left by members who are suspended or who fail to respond to the Unpaid Item (UPI) Process. 4. Positive Feedback percentage will be based on the past 12 months of Feedback, rather than lifetime, since it is most indicative of the seller's recent performance. 5. Restrictions on when Feedback can be left: * Buyers must wait three days before leaving negative or neutral Feedback for sellers with an established track record * Instead of 90 days, members will be able to leave Feedback for 60 days Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:56 AM, Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote: > Sorry for the burn, > I suggest the following: > 1) If you paid via PayPal, dispute the payment. > 2) No - shale is shale and iron is iron. > 3) If he has an IMCA #, Complain to the organization and > Request an intervention - I believe they provide this, though > It may be called "mediation" or the like. If not, request that > His membership be questioned on the basis of your interaction. > 4) If he is not an established dealer AND not an IMCA dealer, > Why did you buy from him? By now you know the old saying.... > "buy only from established dealers." > Again, sorry for the problems. > PS: This is one of those examples of why I HATE eBay "feedback" - > If you give him a negative, he will give you one and you are screwed > For life - so the whole feedback routine on eBay is a crock for my $. > Best wishes, Michael > > > > on 3/3/08 11:38 PM, Mr EMan at mstreman53 at yahoo.com wrote: > > > So as to not even broach a flame war should any of the parties be > > reading ergo actual identities will not be revealed. > > > > This broad issues are accuracy in descriptions and do we hold > > "self-proclaimed dealers" to a higher standard of knowledge. The narrow > > issue is when are weathered chunks of stuff meteorites and when are > > they shale. > > > > I recently bought 100+ grams of "stone meteorites" off a new dealer > > wannabe on eBay only to find what I received were the 3-6mm scraps of > > weathered material from the bottom of a meteorite shipping box. > > Three-five of perhaps 200 pieces were identifiable as meteorites--the > > rest was shale. > > > > The dealer got snide and attacked me personally when the difference > > was brought to his attention. He did not offer to make things right nor > > did he comprehend that he had not accurately described his auction. > > Like so many "dealers" that want to start at the top, he thought all he > > had to do was hang out an eBay shingle and talk a good talk to sit at > > the adult table without taking the time to learn the nuances of > > meteorite wisdom. > > > > That said, is there a consensus of right or wrong as to the selling > > meteorite shale as meteorites? This is as fundamental as asking what > > constitutes a meteorite in trade and commercial terms. Was I sold > > meteorites but shipped shards of meteorite shale? Was there fraud and > > was there a moral obligation by the seller to know the difference if he > > was a "dealer"? When one puts on the hat of dealer should they be held > > to a higher standard when it comes to mistakes? > > > > Finally, are the shards of totally weathered crumbs originally from > > meteorites legitimately "meteorites" or are they meteorite shale? Or > > is this on a continuum between pristine meteorites and weathered clay > > of extraterrestrial origin and at what point do we call them meteorites > > and at what point meteoritic shale? > > > > Elton > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >Received on Tue 04 Mar 2008 09:10:34 AM PST |
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