[meteorite-list] Speck Issues - Reply to this subject

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:38:17 -0800
Message-ID: <C3F20429.14799%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Hi Frank,
        This topic of specks was debated endlessly on the list
Years ago when Bessey made them famous. Let's don't spend
Another three weeks going over the same falderal. For those that
Missed it: there are those "for them" and those "against them."
Those against them get a little more righteous in their position
But do not appear to outnumber those for them. 'Nuff said;
Read the archives.
        As for prices, I would MUCH rather have consistent
Prices than high or low - either way does not effect
My profit percentage - in fact, low is better from my personal
Perspective, because I can increase my personal collection more
Rapidly then. What screws everything up is up and down prices -
And nit wit sellers and resellers who have no comprehension of
Retail vs wholesale marketing! When you can't get a brake in price
By buying in bulk you cannot make a profit, and if you sell wholesale,
Then turn around and retail individual pieces at the same gram
Price, you are screwing your wholesale buyers. Of course, all of this
Goes on all of the time.
        The point is, high or low, prices have little to do with profit,
unless you happen to have a garage full of stock - and I don't know
Anyone with one of those.
        Michael
PS: The convicted meteorite thief, Ron Ferral, has never, to the
Best of my knowledge, been a part of the list. If he ever attempted
to, I would personally lead a drive in requesting Art remove him
Immediately. There are more than enough shenanigans going on
Without outright convicted thieves on the list!

on 3/3/08 1:23 PM, Walter Branch at waltbranch at bellsouth.net wrote:

> Hi Frank,
>
> I could not agree more with you. Every word, every line.
>
> Remember when Blaine Reed brought out DAG 262? There
> were a few who looked at the specks and balked but because it
> was Blaine who was selling it, the pedigree was beyond reproach.
>
> This is not meant to be an indictment of Blaine. Quite the opposite.
>
> I understand the economic pressures of ever smaller pieces of
> meteorite selling for ever higher prices, but it seems the price-to-weight
> graph is almost "U" shaped, with more and more material ending up
> as smaller and smaller fragments.
>
> Where is Steve Schoner? I'd always liked to hear his comments on this. :-)
>
> -Walter Branch
> (From sunny and beautiful Savannah. What the heck am I doing
> indoors. Oh, that's right - I have a job!)
> -----------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Cressy" <fcressy at prodigy.net>
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:41 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Speck Issues - Reply to this subject
>
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> This is a resend of a previous post. I meant to
>> change the subject line but in my fever muddled state
>> I forgot. Sorry about that. Please reply to this
>> post to avoid confusion.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> --- Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Michael and all,
>>>
>>> The Barboton you mentioned was a 9mg speck and went
>>> for $46.67. Many people shopping ebay don't blink
>>> until the price reaches a $100 or more. So
>>> price/gram
>>> on a speck means nothing. The problem I see is that
>>> this and other hammer specks and rare and historical
>>> specks can never be verified. Barbotan is an H5
>>> veined chondrite...see any veining? On the above
>>> example, Peter M was the seller and I have 100%
>>> confidence that this was indeed Barbotan, Now what
>>> if
>>> the winner "1randombid" with a "private" feedback
>>> profile finds a larger Barbotan speck next week, and
>>> decides to sell this one, maybe even using Peter's
>>> original box and card. Still 100% sure of it???
>>> Unless you know the complete collection history of
>>> the
>>> piece with everyone involved, can a buyer have even
>>> a
>>> shred of confidence that the speck is what it is
>>> described to be. At least the Bessey Specks of 10
>>> years ago were either Nakhla and Zagami, and with a
>>> good lens or microscope one could be quite certain
>>> as
>>> to what he/she had. A little more difficult with an
>>> H5 or an L6 to say the least.
>>>
>>> Michael, I also have 100% confidence that your
>>> material is what you say it is, but then I also
>>> wouldn't bet the farm on it. I also know if
>>> something
>>> were to be found in error, you'd stand behind it as
>>> would most dealers. However, with the prices
>>> raising
>>> crazily it's might be too tempting for someone to
>>> sell
>>> a bogus speck maybe just once in a while. We like
>>> to
>>> think that the people on the list are above all
>>> those
>>> things, but wasn't "the one who still remains
>>> nameless" who got caught with a rock in his shoe,
>>> once
>>> a member of the list.
>>>
>>> For you dealers the rising prices are great, but
>>> hopefully is isn't a house of cards and won't end up
>>> like the housing and credit debaucle, built,
>>> founded,
>>> fueled, and distroyed by Greed. The speck value is
>>> only based on trust, and should a couple bad apples
>>> ever show up, I think it could collapse.
>>>
>>> Just my ramblings on another fun filled day with the
>>> flu, Hope you didn't take this personally, just my
>>> views on specks. Also seeing historical specimens
>>> broken into smaller and smaller pieces upsets me
>>> too,
>>> but that's another story.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I noted with interest a small piece of Barbotan on
>>>> eBay. I left a reasonable
>>>> Bid on it and just checked it out.....
>>>> It had sold for over $5,000.00 per gram.
>>>> I have what I believe are the last 3
>>>> specimens available in the
>>>> world on my hammer site (if anyone knows where I
>>> can
>>>> get more, please
>>>> Contact me off list - reward!)
>>>> I will hold this price until the first one
>>>> sells. To see these
>>>> extremely rare specimens click on the photos at
>>> the
>>>> following site:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html
>>>>
>>>> They are easy to find - Barbotan is the oldest
>>>> Hammer listed (1790)
>>>> Best wishes, Michael
>>>> PS: Under 1999 you can find I have 3 last Kobe
>>>> (Japanese hammer)
>>>> Specimens left, as well as numerous other recent
>>>> additions to the page.
>>>>
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