[meteorite-list] Lighten up, it's just semantics

From: mexicodoug at aim.com <mexicodoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:22:07 -0400
Message-ID: <8CAA3D15FC4BC4C-11C4-1F99_at_webmail-de08.sysops.aol.com>

Hi Mike, Martin and Darren, Everyone,

Hi everyone, it seems very ironic to me that the entire Pluto
affair/scandal/debate/boondoggle seems to be a bunch of serious
scientists emulating modern day astrologers in the name of science.
Pluto's status is strictly an astrological question whether viewed
historically, currently, or even philosophically. IAU has managed to
do more astrology than all of the world's astrologers combined lately.

To Mike I appreciate your (IMO) sage comment of tolerance of people's
quirks and opinions, not to mention the whole issue of why the word
astrologer crept in, we really can't know now. Just because it
resembles something we all enjoy is no reason to bent out of shape and
make astrologers walk the plank to be scientists or forget the whole
thing.

To Darren, You sure sound like you would fit right in with the Grand
Inquisitor (Head of the Middle Age Inquisition). I disagree with
putting astrologers in retention compounds sequestered with barbed
wire, just for being a little romantic and making up whatever stuff
they do to make themselves happy.

To Martin, if astrologers are such a bane, why is it that they seem to
have a knack for impressing many nice girls where scientists fail
miserably...have you ever discussed you Zodiac sign with a prospective
or actual loved one - and has it helped in some way? When do we go to
Chinese restaurants and get red-faced about the year of the Dragon and
all of that stuff, I'd be surprised if someone said, "those bad
Chinese", "Off with their heads and don't read that or your nose will
get gangrene and you'll never be published in MAPS?"

...and I'll keep quiet for the rest, where Darren was wise not to tread
...

Best wishes
Doug

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Gilmer <michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 8:34 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Lighten up, it's just semantics



Geez, lighten up a little bit. What has any
astrologer
ever done to you? Did one kick your dog or something?

Life is too short to get bent out of shape over such
things.

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:40:20 -0400
From: Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sigh
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:48:04 -0400, you wrote:

>And besides, some of the greatest astronomers of all
time were
>astrologers, and the entire Cristian faith justified
its begining with

>an astrological signal among the WISE MEN ... a.k.a.
ASTROLOGERS. To
>them we owe our early understanding of the heavens
and plenty more.
>

Believing in incorrect theories in the absence of
enough evidence is
 one thing--
cointinuing to believe in faulty theories even in the
face of knowledge
 is a
world of difference. 15th century astrologers I have
no problem with.
  21st
century astrologers get nothing but the deepest scorn
and contempt from
 me. Let
me be even more blunt-- anyone in any modern,
industrial country with
 access to
a decent education who believes in astrology is a
f*****g nitwit. (I
 could say
similar things about another of your examples, but
don't want to open
 THAT can
of worms).

>Or did the IAU in their "in-your-face" wisdom just
outlaw astrologers,

>too?

If they do, I'll chip in for some barbed wire to go
around the
 internment
center.





.........................................................
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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