[meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day: Phil Morgan's Flyer

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:27:33 +0200
Message-ID: <BF5C12D38F1F45798159FABF7FBE1C03_at_thinkcentre>

Hi Doug, list members , -

"'On the top of a mesa a few miles east of Camp Verde, George E. Dawson
came upon a stone cyst in the corner of an ancient Indian dwelling.
Instead of finding a child burial as he expected, he found a 61.5 kg
metallic meteorite wrapped in a feather-cloth."

As far as I know it was nearly the same with the Winona meteorite. I was
always moved by the fact that American Indian tribes such as the Sinagua
(which were related to the Anasazi I guess) buried a meteorite in a way they
did with children. Perhaps they considered the falling of a meteorite to be
an act of birth? Obviously they were sure that this stone - and Winona
really doesn't look spectacular - was something special. Couldn't that point
to the fact that they observed the meteorite falling? Any ideas about that?

Best regards,

Matthias Baermann


---- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day: Phil Morgan's Flyer


> One more important reference, V. Buchwald, 1975, V. 2, p. 399,
>
> 'On the top of a mesa a few miles east of Camp Verde, George E. Dawson
> came upon a stone cyst in the corner of an ancient Indian dwelling.
> Instead of finding a child burial as he expected, he found a 61.5 kg
> metallic meteorite wrapped in a feather-cloth. ref-Nininger and Nininger
> 1950 p. 106. Considerable pottery was found associated with the burial by
> which its age was determined as about 800 years. ref-Nininger 1952. The
> meteorite was found about 1915, about 33 km South of Sedona and 85 km
> Southwest of Meteor Crater, in Yavapai County. The ancient Indian cliff
> dwellings, Montezuma Castle, are about 7 km North of the find. While the
> find was briefly reported by A.D. Nininger ref-1940. and photographed by
> Nininger and Nininger ref-1952., it was only analyzed lately by Moore et.
> al. ref-1968. and Wasson ref-1968. Wasson concluded on the basis of
> Ga-Ge-Ir contents, which were similar withing analytical error to Canyon
> Diablo, that Camp Verde was a mass transported from the strewn field of
> Meteor Crater."
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the Day: Phil Morgan's Flyer
>
> Hi Bernd and Listees, "A meteorite that was excavated in an ancient
> Arizona ruin. It was found wrapped in a feather cloth and [enclosed in] a
> stone cyst."
> brackets [] are mine to question whethe
> r it was really 'on' or 'in'.
> refs-
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~afs/may96_2.html
> The Camp Verde, Arizona iron meteorite was found on an 800-year-old
> Sinagua "altar," wrapped in a feather blanket and was probably transported
> from Meteor Crater approximately 100 km to the northeast.
> and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite
> In 1915, a 135-pound iron meteorite was found in a Sinagua (c.1100-1200
> AD) burial cyst near Camp Verde, Arizona, respectfully wrapped in a
> feather cloth. referenced to Nininger's 1972 Catch [sic] a Falling Star'.
> Best wishes Doug
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 3:16 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] RFS Picture of the
> Day: Phil Morgan's Flyer
>
> Mr and Mrs H.H. Nininger once wrote: "You will see these strange
> meteorites
> Anyone care to give answers to these 22 pieces of information??? Maybe one
> answer per list member. Happy sleuthing!
> Let me start with #1: "A meteorite that fell through a house roof in
> Missouri during WWI"
> Well, that's "Baxter" ... like list member Jim Baxter ;-) Hi Jim, how are
> you doin'?
> Baxter is an L6 chondrite of 611 grams that fell through the roof of a
> house in Stone (!) County, Missouri, on Jan 18, 1616.
>
> Cheers,
> Bernd
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