[meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:54:05 +1100
Message-ID: <00b301c860b1$6a0576c0$4001a8c0_at_mandin4f89ypwu>

G'day Dean,

Yeah that rings a bell. I remember Kem Kem stuff all over ebay back in 2001.
I think the whole NWA numbering system was just being done sometime around
then too. I think most of the Kem Kem material was just another name for
Unclassified NWA. ;-)

Cheers,

Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: dean bessey
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help -- Kem Kem??


In 2000 (Might be 1999 or 2001, I cant remember
exactly) this was in BNWA (Before NWA) ex meteorite
dealer Michael Casper bought 300 kilos of meteorites
(300 kilos was a massive amount of meteorites at a
time when even weathered unclassified meteorites were
getting $3 a gram on ebay) that he was told was found
in the Kem Kem plain near the algerian border. I
bought some from this 300 kilo bunch (As did a lot of
other dealers and meteorites named "Kem Kem" was
showing up on ebay).
After seeing it in person I realized that this was a
very large number of strewnfields all mixed together
that Casper was selling. At around the same time the
meteoritical society was trying to decide how to
retain as much information as possible on all the
meteorites that were just being sold with no
particular pattern in morocco. Jeff Grossman in
particular went on a "fact finding" mission asking
dealers selling NWAs (They werent called NWAs back
then) what was happening and the best way to
accumulate as much info as possible on all of these
mixed meteorites (I remember him asking me if the
moroccans were cutting them up before selling them).
It soon became obvious that TKW and GPS coordinates
would not be known and it was decided by the met
society that the best way to deal with the less than
ideal (but nevertheless present) situation was to
create the NWA system that we all now all know and
love.
I dont know of anything other than this 300 kilos was
ever sold as Kem Kem. However, there are a lot of
NWA's that originally were a part of Caspers 300 kilos
of "Kem Kem". Bernd mentions a 14 gram eucrite and my
very own historical meteorite NWA001 originally came
from this 300 kilos of "Kem Kem". There are lots more
for sure as this "Kem Kem" was a very mixed group of
meteorites and at that time we all were under the
misguided notion that all meteorites from NWA would
eventually be classified (Wither they actually all
came from the Kem Kem plain or not is another matter
and will probably never be known).
Thats my Kem Kem memories anyway
Cheers
DEAN
www.meteoriteshop.com
AMUNRE on ebay



--- tracy latimer <daistiho at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I was given to understand that Kem Kem was one of
> those "placeholder" provisional names given to a
> meteorite that had not been classified. Since there
> were a number of gray areas regarding TKW, find
> location, and if all the pieces submitted as "Kem
> Kem" actually were from the same strewnfield, it had
> never received an official number or classification.
> I bought a partslice when it was new, unclassified,
> and all over the market, and would be tickled pink
> but surprised if it were a eucrite (mine looks like
> a generic L6).
>
> Tracy Latimer
>
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de
> > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:59 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TKW help
> >
> > Hi David and List,
> >
> > "Does anyone have the total known weight of Kem
> Kem and
> > Tata? I'm updating labels and cannot find the info
> anywhere."
> >
> > If Kem Kem is NWA 1198, a eucrite, it's TKW = 14
> gr; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87
> > If Tata is NWA 1430, a IIIAB iron, it's TKW = 113
> kg; 1 piece; Met.Bull. 87
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Bernd
> >
> > To: mdavidhardy at yahoo.com
> > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >
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