[meteorite-list] Re The SkyRock Cafe
From: Michael Gilmer <michael_w_gilmer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:46:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <788628.76203.qm_at_web58411.mail.re3.yahoo.com> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com --- dave at fallingrocks.com wrote: --------------------------------- All & Dr. Phil, You have to draw the line somewhere, and it is here: this is my last response to this mess...period. Michael, simply put, you are wrong. And I have not offered an apology for "trolling" as that is not what I was doing when I asked him a simple question (completely off line); nor will one be forthcoming. I get the question "what's makes your company different from all the rest?" at least weekly in running my business, and the reason that I get it is that it is a good and open-ended question. Running this business would be very easy if I assumed negativity, got defensive and attacked everyone who asked it, as we would have no customers or vendors to deal with. Good grief... The downside to a forum structure is that some people will abuse it either by taking their own personal frustrations out on the rest of the group or by relieving their own insecurities by lecturing the group with diatribes that tend to start off with "As someone with lots of experience..." Over and out, Dave -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [meteorite-list] Re The SkyRock Cafe From: Michael Gilmer <michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com> Date: Thu, February 21, 2008 11:42 am To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Hi List, As someone with lots of experience moderating online discussions (3 years at Cloudy Nights, and several years combined moderating no less than 4 Yahoo groups and 3 other smaller online forums) - I have seen disagreements arise like this many times. The original question that provoked Joe's response was a "troll" - pure and simple. I have seen a few trolls like this in my time - innocently worded statements with a definite implied meaning behind them. This troll was expertly done and many readers would casually overlook the veiled nature of the post. I have to deal with so many types of people who engage in borderline behavior to slip under the radar of the moderators - that I have an eye for it. This exchange we are here discussing is a classic example of a troll and a flame response, followed by much discussion of what really happened and who is to blame. Well, both parties are to blame, nobody is innocent, and no real damage was done. I'd much rather, in a perfect world, have everyone get along with each other. But let's not make a mountain out of a molehill here. Trolls will make their statements and then sit back innocently with a halo perched above their head, wondering what they did to provoke such an unwarranted response - when they know full well what was coming in response to their troll. And people will take the bait and say things they shouldn't and regret it later - like Joe did. We all have bad days and lives outside of meteorites that can be stressful sometimes. Skyrock Cafe is a great list with some intelligent and fun people on it - it is a compliment to the Meteorite List, not a replacement or competition. This whole matter is being blown out of proportion. Joe has done the right thing and apologized for his "tirade". I don't hear the original poster apologizing for engaging in trolling. So we probably won't hear any such apology and that person will sit there with a halo and continue to wonder "What did little ole me start, my gracious, I never meant to do that!". This list is too good to be dragged down with distractions such as this. Let's bury it and move on to talk about meteorites and meteoritics. :) Regards and meteorites! MikeG ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:22:41 -0600 From: "Joe Kerchner" <illinoismeteorites at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The SkyRock Cafe To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: <14beaf810802201722n246c959cu350598bec5d42346 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com> wrote: > > > candidly, the fellow clearly has significant psychological/emotional > issues. thought the worst and framed it respectfully---despite his > having been vile. he will not change,dave; he's fully baked---just > don't engage with him again. best/d Darryl, Dave List, By me defending my forum and over reacting to a negative comment. You(Mr. Pitt) come to the conclusion that I have significant psychological/emotional issues?I was not aware that Dave's message was private, I thought it was post for the entire list to read, which is the same reason I posted it to the list. I really am not a person who agues with people all the time or a spaz. I do not understand how, by my message alone That I am unstable and am in need of psychological help. When I wrote that reply. I was in a terrible mood, I was having w very bad day, I was not in my normal frame of mind. I am person who tries to avoid conflict. I really do not know how this got soo blown out of proportion. How can you say I will not change? I do not understand how this got soo out of hand. I merely spoke my mind about a person who was belittling the SkyRock Cafe which I have put much time and money into, so that all meteorite collectors and hunters will have a place to share photos and stories, also to get a question answered. I analogize to Dave for over reacting and calling him names, but I do not understand how Darryl Pitt hats the right to say I have significant psychological/emotional issues. That bothers me. How can they think I have problem, simply because I was defending My forum, I never said anything about Mr. Pitt and he attacks me. I do not know what that proves, but it does show his true colors. I want no problems and I hope that this does not keep people away from the SkyRock Cafe, it is a great place no matter what goes on here, there is not arguing, no egos, not beef between members. So I hope that everyone can put this behind them and check out the SkyRock at give us a chance, if you do not like it you do not ever have to go there ever again, but You should just give us a quick look over, I think you will find it to be a friendly and full of information and people ready to help you with all of you questions. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Received on Thu 21 Feb 2008 03:46:44 PM PST |
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