[meteorite-list] Caveat Emptor: Beware of Bob Evans!

From: Norbert Classen <riffraff_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:55:18 +0100
Message-ID: <B895DB96BD0F4A5486EA8A1FD2512E77_at_lunatic>

Hi Al, and All,

Even if Bob Evan's tells you where he got his items from you can't bet that
it's the truth. Several IMCA members got burned in their dealings with Bob
Evans, and we had the doubtful pleasure to investigate quite a few of these
cases on the IMCA Board of Directors. I still have a special email folder
with hundreds of mails regarding this subject.

Bob, you wrote: "Misrepresent ? Never !" Hmmm, how does it come that the
alleged source of your Tilden, for example, says that he never had this
meteorite, just to name one incidence? I know, you said that you didn't
recall that correctly, like in several other cases. Hard to believe, if you
ask me. If I have a look at my meteorites I can usually tell you where I got
this or that sample, especially when it comes to the rare or special ones.

You also wrote: "NWA 1110 - Adams efforts to comletely control certain areas
of the market". Hmm, even if it would have been Adam's intent to "control
certain areas of the market" this wouldn't give you the right to sell
unclassified stuff as something that has a clearly defined TKW and
classification. Stating possible pairings is one thing, selling something
for something else is an entirely different affair. And it shows that you
aren't taking things too seriously when it comes to proper labeling
practices.

I could go on for a while, but it's wasted time trying to convince you that
you made even one single mistake. And that's always alarming, especially if
the responses to legit questions are insulting and abusive.

Caveat Emptor!
Norbert Classen
President IMCA Inc.

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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von al
mitterling
Gesendet: Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008 17:30
An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Caveat Emptor: Beware of Bob Evans!

Greetings,

Since bob has sent this to the list, I will reply. One item you have
misrepresented is Plymouth, Indiana. The buyer of that has contacted you
many times trying to get their money back and has never had any success and
he has tried hard. This buyer contacted me to thank me for my post and tell
me about his fruitless efforts with you. There have been questions about a
great number of your other items and the pedigree. Some of which you said
you purchased as an exchange from a university but they say they never had
contact with you.

Your criminal behavior is a problem for the whole collecting and selling
meteorite community. If you could offer up proof where your items of
question came from then it might give you some of your reputation back.
However in your email you mention that you don't have to let anyone know
where you get your items from. To me, that tells a lot about you.
Serious problems like this need to be brought out in the open and people
warned.

I agree with Dave Gheesling, Art, please remove the trash from the list.

--AL Mitterling

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From: "JoshuaTreeMuseum" <joshuatreemuseum at embarqmail.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:25 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Caveat Emptor: Beware of Bob Evans!


> First off, kudos to Al Mitterling for pointing out the riffy, illegal
> business practices of Bob Evans. I'm surprised no one else has called
> out this onion in the daisy patch. Bob Evans has made thousands of
> dollars selling misrepresented meteorites to unsuspecting customers,
> notably Plymouth and Zulu Queen. I know because I was duped into buying a

> sample of his ersatz Plymouth. At the time, I had just gotten a job as
> collections curator of a small Earth and Space museum. I was very excited
> to see the Plymouth meteorite offered in an ad on the Meteorite List, as
> the town is just down the road from us and my uncle and I had spent
> considerable time researching and searching for the supposed lost main
> mass. (Turned out to be a wild goose chase). Since Bob seemed to be a
> list member in good standing I figured he could be trusted. If I had known

> enough to search the archives, I would have seen that he is a con man. To
> make a long story short, Bob's Plymouth was as phony as a 3 dollar bill.
> He told me it was etched before I bought it, (it wasn't). He promised he
> would return my money as he stated in the auction, (he didn't). I've
> asked him numerous times for my money back and got nothing but a run
> around. This guy is a con artist and I must admit he runs a good scam
> that has been very profitable for him. He's giving the industry a bad
> name and should be flamed every time he comes out of hiding and has the
> audacity to come back and post on the list. I would like to warn all
> newbies: Do not deal with this guy! If you do, you will regret it in the
> long run.
> Phil Whitmer
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