[meteorite-list] pronouncing "Orgueil"
From: Zelimir Gabelica <Zelimir.Gabelica_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:24:19 +0200 Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20080430191325.03006ec0_at_pop.univ-mulhouse.fr> Carl Esparza wrote: Haag pronounces Orgueil " or gay." ------------------------------------------------- Not so. If you pronounce it "or gay", nobody will understand here (although I know that whenever Bob brings along some Orgueil, it is sold before unwrapped!) Basing on pronouncing dyphtongs in French (last link in Darren's post - see below; thanks Darren!), it comes to: "Org ?j" as in the wikipedia example: /?j/ as in feuille "leaf" btw: "orgueil" as common name, also means in Franch: "pride" or "arrogance"... This being, I agree that writing phonetic pronounciations in any language is far from being a simple task. How about oral records ? Who can handle that ? I stay ready to help for French names Best, Zelimir --------------------------- A 11:28 25/04/2008 -0400, Darren Garrison a ?crit : >On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:59:43 +0200, you wrote: > > >I even can't find how to write the end part, as this is the tricky one (but > >I can consult experts in writing phonetic pronounciations). > >NOT a simple task. There are so many languge units (phonics, and some things >that I'm not 100% sure are even concidered phonics) that learning them all (or >even how to write or describe them all) would take a lot of time and effort. >Even writing them in plain ASCII would be dificult. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA > >http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=writing+phonetic+pronunciations&spell=1 > >I've, in the past, been reading Wikipedia entries on languages, and the litany >of technical terms on positioning of tounge and mouth and how you breathe or >whatnot is like a foreign language-- if you don't already know the jargon, you >are lost. Probably need the equivalent of at least on semester of lingustics >classes just to get the terms straight. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_phonetics_topics >______________________________________________ >http://www.meteoritecentral.com >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Universit? de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 Received on Wed 30 Apr 2008 01:24:19 PM PDT |
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