[meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?

From: Bill <glixard_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:48:54 -0800
Message-ID: <9AC8054F678.000005F5glixard_at_inbox.com>

Darryl,

Maybe you can redeem yourself by gambling away the money from the sale of the meteorite at the noble, sacred casino. I wonder how all the shmucks that lose their familes and homes there will fit the dataset? The spirits will look favorably on them I suppose but not during the game of course. Are there spirits of the slot machine and blackjack table that one could entreat for good fortune?

The sprawling Grand Ronde complex is a sin against the earth as defined by tradition, isn't it? Who will pay for that crime? Hypocrites don't hold any spritual water in my opinion.

Bill



> -----Original Message-----
> From: darryl at dof3.com
> Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:26:07 -0400
> To: epgrondine at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite for sale?
>
>
>
> glad to see the scientific method still at work!!
>
> actually, come to think of it, yesterday i arrived at 5th/70th street
> just after a woman was tragically struck by a truck. and, get this,
> an hour or so ago, i happened upon a taxi around the corner from my
> office which was completely ablaze. maybe as you're the recipient of
> this email....
>
> eeeek.
>
>
> On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:03 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote:
>
>> Hi Darryl -
>>
>> I suppose my answers to your questions are we'll find
>> out.
>>
>> If you really feel compelled to do so go on ahead and
>> join the dataset.
>>
>> E.P.
>>
>> --- Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this is offensive, and not just to me, but to native
>>> americans.
>>>
>>> how is it, exactly, that you're expert in how
>>> vengeful native
>>> american spirits will be---that is if they're
>>> vengeful at all?
>>>
>>> and might the measure of an honorable life mitigate
>>> the wrath you
>>> predict, or are you just making this into a nice
>>> little primitive fable?
>>>
>>> and just to be clear, trust me, if get suddenly
>>> drop, it's not
>>> because of a meteorite transaction; i've been
>>> pushing notions of good
>>> living for far too long.
>>>
>>> moreover, there exist countless objects in nature
>>> that have been
>>> venerated by previous cultures that we have no idea
>>> of---and that's a
>>> free pass?! is it tribe specific? just checking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Depth of Field Management
>>> 1501 Broadway Suite 1304
>>> New York, New York 10036
>>> 212.302.9200
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:49 PM, E.P. Grondine wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul (Litig8n-shark), all -
>>>>
>>>> It's funny: you're worrying about the courts,
>>>>
>>> while
>>>
>>>> oblivious to what has been observed to be
>>>>
>>> incidents of
>>>
>>>> horrendous bad luck following upon the desecration
>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>> native american religious artifacts. (I'm sorry,
>>>>
>>> but
>>>
>>>> for the time being I'll have to leave that
>>>>
>>> statement
>>>
>>>> without rigourous documentation.)
>>>>
>>>> While some may have previously bought or sold
>>>> Williamette while oblivous to its earlier
>>>>
>>> religious
>>>
>>>> use, if you now feel comfortable purchasing it at
>>>> auction, go on ahead. We need some data on mache
>>>> katet, and it should be easy enough to follow the
>>>> fates of the auction's winners.
>>>>
>>>> E.P. Grondine
>>>> Man and Impact in the Americas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- LITIG8NSHARK at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Good evening, Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've not kept up with this thread, unfortunately.
>>>>> However, this post makes
>>>>> me think that what I am looking at is the
>>>>> possibility of another demand for
>>>>> "reparations"...25.....50, or 100, or more years
>>>>> later. When will it end? For
>>>>> what "special" group, shall there be an unlimited
>>>>> statute of limitations?
>>>>> Shall causes-of-action be allowed to pass down
>>>>> through families, or "special"
>>>>> groups--as a result of nothing more than
>>>>> bloodline--in perpetuity? I sincerely
>>>>> hope not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any among us who can't remotely align
>>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>>> a "special" group who
>>>>> has been discriminated against, under color of
>>>>> governmental authority, in the
>>>>> past few hundred years? In my opinion, no group
>>>>> should be entitled to multiple
>>>>> bites at the apple, over decades.
>>>>>
>>>>> Might your position on this issue change if
>>>>> suddenly, your country's laws
>>>>> changed, and all of a sudden you found your
>>>>> meteorite collection, or part
>>>>> thereof, being subject to confiscation? Just a
>>>>> thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Martyn
>>>>> Savannah, Georgia
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 9/19/2007 8:53:02 PM Eastern
>>>>> Daylight Time,
>>>>> rob at nakhladogmeteorites.com writes:
>>>>> That is quite a condensed version of a very
>>>>> interesting story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good place to start and follow the references.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willamette_Meteorite
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob Wesel
>>>>> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> We are the music makers...
>>>>> and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
>>>>> Willy Wonka, 1971
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorite
>>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>> sale?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Pete, all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly, the meteorite was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> considered
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> a sacred relic by the local people, but the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> European
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> settlers hacked off pieces, and then the bulk of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> was hauled off by wagon and sold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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