[meteorite-list] RE : Re: morrocan and americain influence on pairing

From: habibi abdelaziz <azizhabibi_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:22:16 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <713450.31182.qm_at_web62006.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

hello anne and marcin.
i understoood what you sad anne yesterday but i went
late to bed very tired from a little trip , sorry if i
didn't answer fast.
i agree with you that there must be a structural
organization for meteorite and labs,and dealers.
but there is many problem and marcin had explain
fataly well , what is happening in NWA market. this is
exactly what i would like to say.
concerning casablanca i get a talk lately in france
with dr chennaoui and they need time to buy machine
and microprobe and all the rest so uneversity of
casablanca is not ready yet.
but we are working with europe labs and it's going
fantastic with dr jambon by example he is fast and
doing a fantastic job with all the integrity that
acadimique work needs , and there is on the road some
fanstastic news about some incredible meteorite.
thanks anne and marcin i apreciate your comment much
aziz the habibi

--- PolandMET <marcin at polandmet.com> a ?crit?:

> > I agree with Greg only as far as this is
> concerned.
> > The problem could and should be taken care of at
> the source.
> > It would be relatively easy for Moroccan dealers
> to get together when a
> > new
> > meteorite appears, like the new one from Mali or
> this Lodranite or the
> > many-numbered Shergottite. You could put the whole
> mass aside and send
> > just one
> > sample of 20 grams to the University of
> Casablanca. You would probably get
> > a
> > response with a month or 2 and then you could all
> put the meteorite on the
> > market at the same time. And with just ONE number.
>
> Dear Annie
> This could happend in ideal world, and we not live
> there :)
> In Morocco live not 5 dealers but maybe 50 or 100
> bigger or smaller,
> moroccans, nomads and who else work with our stones.
> Some are more educated in meteorites some less, some
> deals only with
> meteorites and some only from time to time. Its just
> impossible to organize
> them. They protecting their sources and they
> customers from each other. This
> is competition who find more meteorites and sell
> more expensive.
>
> Also how we could get one number for our stones if
> we live all over the
> world ? We also protect our sources, everyone want
> be first to offer new
> material and noone will wait for me or for You till
> You show what You have
> and You send samples or photos to compare etc.Yep,
> how we can be sure that
> we all have the same material and we can all
> together send only one 20g
> sample ? Comparing on photos ? Not. Sending slices
> to every other dealer to
> compare my material with Yours ? Not. Tell You where
> I bough it ? I dont
> even think that anyone tell me where he buying his
> stuff.
>
> Some material show loooooong after its premiere. For
> example my specimen of
> MC046. I dont need to be Ted Bunch to know with
> number its paired but I dont
> make photos pairing or ask others if I can use their
> numbers, but make my
> own classification like we all do.
>
> So I think we must accept this situation. There is
> no possible to solve this
> problem if beetween us and meteorites work 10 or 20
> middleman's.
> Even if You come to morocco and want to buy all
> samples of meteorites (like
> Mali or latest shergottite) there will be alvays
> some samples that You will
> not find or even they will be sold like something
> else (lodranite as
> chondrite, lunar as eucrite) and someone else will
> buy it and make new
> classification becouse he dont know that his 500g is
> part of Yours 50kg. And
> at lest 500g sells better than 50kg so I dont
> expectthat that all dealers
> will split together even if its possible.
>
> We CARE as much as we can on meteorites in this
> situation. I alvays make
> detailed photos of main mass before cuting, sending
> type specimens, looking
> for possible pairings etc. But thats all I can do.
>
> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----
> http://www.Meteoryty.pl
> marcin at meteoryty.pl
> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin at meteorite.pl
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195
> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society
> ]--------
>
>


habibi aziz
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phone. 21235576145
fax.21235576170


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