[meteorite-list] New email from Gregory, total change of tone.

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <754338.75821.qm_at_web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ok, now Randall, or the "Doctor" claims that the money
extracted from me was for police "expenses"/
I guess they forgot to collect them from us on the way
to the crater, they decided to do it in plain-clothes
at 9 pm and 5 am, demanding hundreds of $$$ each.
Um, yeah, okkkkkkkkkk.
It seems that my discussions with the local press and
the landowner are hitting home now.
Note the change in tone in this email?
Randall, I think the local government will be coming
for your meteorite piece, you admitteed yourself that
you bought 4 kilos from Major Anaya, the press are
eating that up and I think you had better prepare for
the knock on your door at 5 am.
Randall, if you kick the tiger in the balls, you had
better plan to deal with it's teeth!
Michael Farmer

--- Randall Gregory <randall_gregory at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:20:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Randall Gregory <randall_gregory at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas (whoops) Lake
> Titicaca meteorite fall
> To: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> I didn't know you spoke Spanish. Que Tal? It's
> quite possible you misunderstood what transpired.
> You paid the police a service fee for driving you
> out to the site in their 2 trucks. Gasoline is very
> expensive there. Four dollars $4 a gallon if I
> recall. Additionally, they provided you with round
> the clock protection on their own time to protect
> you from would be bandits. They woke you up because
> they heard reports that some Bolivians got wind
> there was a millionare "Gringo" staying in
> Desaguadero. Remember how close to the border you
> were? You were less than 1/2 mile. They could have
> taken you though the truck route at the other bridge
> where it's very dark and trucks pass with little or
> no inspection of the contents.
>
> This area is the land of the Quechua and they
> speak a mixture of Spanish and native language. My
> wife kids me because I speak Spanglish. It is the
> center for Peruvian Folklore and the language is
> preserved. Try to recall what they said exactly to
> you and since you were a Language major in college,
> I would recommend getting the book Compendio de
> Gramatica y Vocabulario Quechua - Aymara by
> Villamor, German. I believe it's $18. Then see if
> anything they said might have been a
> misinterpretation. Look deep and I think you'll find
> your answer. ;)
>
> Mike, I believe this event was a gift from God.
> Randall
>
> P.S. Please change the name from Carancas to Lake
> Titicaca. We can share with the Bolivian people,
> they're all Quechua - Aymara.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had three people in my party, so how they
> reported 5
> Americans is beyond me. It shows the lack in
> information that they use in Peru to print the news.
> I have been on the phone for hours with the press in
> Peru, and the embassy, and I have a funny feeling
> that
> this will get much nastier now, that I have
> denounced
> the police and Randall and forwarded his emails to
> the
> press in Peru!
> This should be fun, especially the report of Randall
> that he bought a 4 kilo stone from the chief of
> police, the same one who came to arrest me for
> "trafficking" meteorites. I guess his own sales were
> ok, but not my purchases from him:)
> I think the police in that town are about to be in a
> little trouble, as the Peruvian press is loving to
> hear my side of the story, with emails to prove it!
>
> I speak fluent Spanish, I guess Randall did not know
> this. Too bad for him.
> Michael Farmer
>
>
> By the way, I did not pay bribes, I paid EXTORTION
> money, and I assure you that if you were in our
> shoes,
> you would pay when extorted, of course I played dumb
> and paid them little, and got out of there.
>
>
> --- "E.P. Grondine" wrote:
>
> > Hi Robert, all -
> >
> > At least the newspaper got it right - "5"
> meteorite
> > traficantes - Farmer had 3 in his party, so you
> were
> > in the company of someone else.
> >
> > And yes, la mordida is a bane, of which you have
> > mastery. There is one thing that can be said for
> > Farmer, at least he openly reported his bribes -
> you
> > haven't.
> >
> > Others here have pointed out that you ripped off
> the
> > locals by preying on their ignorance of the market
> > and
> > offering them low prices.
> >
> > In Canada, this kind of thing would not happen
> > because
> > of the laws there. On the other hand, a lot of
> Moss
> > Lake was lost.
> >
> > The question here is did you enter into a contract
> > with the land owner, and if so when? Did the land
> > owner allow others to collect on his land? The
> > money
> > from the sales of the pieces that the police
> seized
> > from the finders must either be given to them or
> to
> > the land owners. But there is a fat chance of that
> > happening.
> >
> > So how about a list of who bought what from whom
> > when
> > you go to catalog? Say "Oficer Jose" or "Mayor
> > Jorge"?
> >
> > Robert, you're being just plain nasty here. Please
> > stop insulting Farmer, and please stop using a
> false
> > name and false title.
> >
> > E.P. Grondine
> > Man and Impact in the Americas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Received on Thu 04 Oct 2007 07:10:03 PM PDT