[meteorite-list] correction on illinois irons

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:09:48 -0700
Message-ID: <93aaac890703192209j39466381u4c1177ef3b95feb0_at_mail.gmail.com>

Haha, now that's just great - even if the politics were to blame
initially, it wouldn't matter anyways - it's another mass of Richland.
In any case, Mike Farmer and I (I'm pretty sure) resolved our bit off-list.
Jason

On 3/19/07, Mike Jensen <meteoriteplaya at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Michael
> According to this article;
> Formation of IIAB Irons By Wasson, J. T., Huber, Heinz & Malvin,
> Daniel J. from GCA 71 (2007) 760-781
> They state in appendix B that : "The 47-kg Fredericksburg (Texas) iron
> was first reported to us by a person living in Alaska, who stated that
> it had been inherited from a deceased relative who lived near
> Fredericksburg. Our analysis of the sample shows that, within error,
> its composition is the same as that of Richland (Texas) iron. Both
> irons appear to be strongly weathered. However, these two Texas
> locations are 297 km apart, farther apart than plausible for a strewn
> field. Our best guess is that human transport has been involved, and
> that they are fragments from the same fall. Fredericksburg is not an
> approved name; we suggest that this mass be referred to as Richland
> (Fredericksburg) unless future studies imply that it resulted from a
> distinct fall."
>
> They also have paired up several other irons but most well know is
> Dutch Flat. They recommend treating it as paired with Sikhote-Alin.
>
>
> --
> Mike
> --
> Mike Jensen
> Jensen Meteorites
> 16730 E Ada PL
> Aurora, CO 80017-3137
> 303-337-4361
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> website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
>
> On 3/19/07, Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Jason,
> > I have asked, many times. Mr Wasson has not done me
> > the courtesy of an answer. He was fast on the email
> > though, when I bought the meteorite, demanding a ~500
> > gram sample since UCLA had tried to buy the meteorite
> > for years before I bought it. There was one problem
> > though, they did not pay the owner of the meteorite.
> > The seller got tired of waiting for UCLA to actually
> > write a check after some years, and sold it to me.
> > This angered John Wasson and he obviously, refuses to
> > finish the classification because of that, even after
> > I sent him and endcut of more than 500 grams for free.
> > There is little I can do, so perhaps you could ask
> > about it.
> > Michael Farmer
> >
> > --- Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Bill, All,
> > > You should read what you post - check the references
> > > section of your
> > > link and you get:
> > >
> > > Never published in the Meteoritical Bulletin
> > > Find references in NASA ADS
> > >
> > > Haha, don't think I don't do my research too ;)
> > > It's yet to be "published," just as I said.
> > >
> > > And Mike, it seems as if we've finally hit on
> > > something we disagree on -
> > > I didn't buy any piece of the meteorite, nor did I
> > > buy/sell the entire mass.
> > > I think that asking John would fall to you, or at
> > > least a buyer.
> > > I'm just curious to know why it hasn't been
> > > submitted yet.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > On 3/19/07, Bill <glixard at inbox.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jason,
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?sea=havana&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&stype=contains&lrec=50&map=ge&browse=&country=All&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&phot=&pnt=no&code=11857
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: meteoritekid at gmail.com
> > > > > Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:23:20 -0700
> > > > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] correction on
> > > illinois irons
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Again All, Steve,
> > > > > Well, you're...kind of....right.
> > > > > Most people wouldn't qualify Havana as a
> > > meteorite, seeing as all
> > > > > that's known of it is a few little indian beads
> > > made out of meteoric
> > > > > iron. Yes, it's true, they did turn out to have
> > > a different chemical
> > > > > composition than any known iron, but then again,
> > > it was never
> > > > > published in the meteoritical bulletin.
> > > > > It would be something like calling
> > > Fredericksburg (remember that
> > > > > Hexahedrite from a few years ago?) an approved
> > > meteorite - it's never
> > > > > been mentioned in the bulletin or elsewhere, so
> > > how can you?
> > > > > On that note, does anyone know why it was never
> > > submitted?
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/19/07, steve arnold
> > > <stevenarnold60120 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >> Hello list and good evening.Being from illinois
> > > and
> > > > >> having been to 3 of the state strewfields,there
> > > are
> > > > >> already 3 iron meteorites classified already in
> > > > >> illinois.HAVANA (IIICD),SAINT AUGUSTINE
> > > (IID),and
> > > > >> finally WOODBINE (IAB).So if this was to be the
> > > next
> > > > >> iron from illinois,it would be the
> > > FOURTH.3+1=4.I
> > > > >> always thought that 4 year olds knew this
> > > addition as
> > > > >> well as 50 year olds.I guess not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
> > > > >> Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!!
> > > > >> www.chicagometeorites.net
> > > > >> Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
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