[meteorite-list] lying thiefs

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <815550.57626.qm_at_web33109.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark,
We have had more than than 10 months of attempted
resolutions, only to be lied to every time just to put
off the inevitable. Stan has spent hundreds of
thousands of $$$ with many dealers, tens of thousands
with myself. That does not change the fact that he
refuses to pay for what he bought, and refuses to
return the now stolen item. After 10 months of refusal
to pay, there is no argument that can be made in any
way to call this anything other than outright theft.
Stan has refused phone calls, refused emails, and even
while selling on ebay, refused to answer questions
through ebay. That proves outright refusal to resolve
the issue. The Russians posted last month that he owes
them over $14,000. That is not small change, and I
have obligations, bills to pay myself, and when
someone refuses to pay me, it has a trickle-down
effect, hampering my efforts to keep my own bills
paid.
My posting of this dirty laundry to the meteorite list
is an effort to force resolution of this matter out of
the courts, and to give fair warning to others that
this person is of low moral character and that you do
business with him at your own risk.
Michael Farmer



--- Mark Crawford <mark at annasach.net> wrote:

> I don't have strong views on 'outing' people on this
> list - although I
> would certainly aim for private resolution first, as
> it seems like
> Michael and Darryl already have done.
>
> One question I do have (and excuse me if it sounds
> naive) - are these
> individuals people who you've known for some time,
> and have suddenly
> gone bad (in which case yeah - we've all met them)?
> If not, why send
> the goods without receiving payment first? I know
> this is a
> trust-based hobby, but...?
>
> Mark
>
>
> Darryl Pitt wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > there should be an abstract on meteorites and
> sociopaths....volumes I
> > & II
> >
> > there are unreliable, bad human beings in our
> constellation, for
> > sure. the worst (and the most disheartening) are
> the folks who
> > masquerade as good guys who we want to believe-in
> and who repeatedly
> > lie and disappoint and who thumb their noses at
> significant debts---
> > and who think nothing of repeatedly doing so.
> >
>
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