[meteorite-list] Lang Auction - Chain of Events

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:18:14 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <471888.72596.qm_at_web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sounds like somebody got caught with their hand in the
cookie jar to me! It is interesting that all of the
"mistakes" are in the dealers favor, talk about making
every bloody nickel scream. I smell greed.

Adam





--- Greg Hupe <gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Dear List Members,
>
> Achim Karl asked me to post an email he received
> "today" from Iris Lang:
> >>
> > -----Urspr??ngliche Mitteilung-----
> > Von: rockgirl2416 at bellsouth.net
> > An: achimkarl at aol.com
> > Verschickt: Do., 8. Feb. 2007, 10:45
> > Thema: Tucson auction
> >
> >
> > Dear Achim Karl,
> >
> > After the show ended, Allan took the room apart
> and finally found the
> > missing
> > meteorites. We had many absentee bids, and having
> two other people
> > handling the
> > auction besides ourselves created some confusions.
> Please give him a few
> > days to
> > get home and he will contact you as soon as
> possible.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Iris Lang
> > http://www.nyrockman.com
> >
> >
>
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> noch heute!
> <<
>
> Here is the chain of events of the Lang Auction:
>
> Saturday February 3, 2007
> "The Auction"
>
> Monday February 5, 2007
> "The Act"
> Part One - Achim Karl told by Allan and Iris Lang
> his three lots were
> stolen.
> Part Two - The same three "stolen" lots were sold to
> two different bidders
> for higher prices.
>
> Thursday February 8, 2007
> "The Cover-Up"
> Achim receives email from Iris Lang claiming Allan
> found the "stolen" lots.
>
> Lets see, Achim won three lots, was told they were
> stolen when he went to
> pay for and take possession of them, these same
> three lots were then sold to
> two other bidders for higher prices, and then three
> days later, after this
> thread started, Achim receives an email stating
> Allan found the three lots.
>
> So Peter, how do the final hammer prices Mike posted
> to the List compare to
> what you were told you won the auctions for with
> your absentee bids of the
> "stolen" lots?
>
> It sounds to me like dirty hands trying to dig a
> deeper hole to bury this
> self-imposed mess! Quite the web that has been
> woven...
>
> Greg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:22 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] a few other auction
> surprises
>
>
> Hi Mike, list,
>
> Mike's reported hammer prices will probably shed
> more shadow than light on
> that famous auction.
>
> While we are at trying to clear all points, here are
> some of my own
> amazements.
>
> I have put 11 absentee bids and four of them turned
> to be above the hammer
> prices. These are:
>
> Item hammer ($) my bid ($)
>
> 19 Gorlovka 160 (Achim) 210
> 35 Marilia 610 710
> 52 Quenggouk 180 260
> 60 Vernon Co 266 260
>
> 1) Shouldn't have I been the winner or .... ???
> (badly missing something!)
>
> 2) For other 6 items, my bids were logically lower
> than hammers. This is OK
> (at least on my side)
>
> 3) But for the last item, here is the other
> surprise.
> Iris Lang sent me the same letter as to Peter, about
> item N? 29, Khohar.
> Here it is
>
> Dear Zelimir Gabelica,
> You won Lot # 29 Khohar for $495
> Allan will be home within a week. Please contact him
> by e-mail to make
> arrangment for payment. You can pay by check or
> credit card. Please add
> shipping and handling cost.
> Best regards
> Iris Lang
>
> Now Mike reports that this item was sold to Achim in
> room for $ 495 (which
> is exactly my bid).
> If Mike is corect, something really wrong here. Who
> is the winner ?
> I dare hoping that Mike mixed the two winers but his
> statement seems so
> strong. Any thoughts?
>
> Unless I missed many rules or facts (not excluded),
> things are far from
> being clear.
> Are there other cases ?
>
> Best,
>
> Zelimir
>
>
>
>
> A 09:55 08/02/2007 -0800, Michael Farmer a ?crit :
> >Mike and everyone else, I do not want to be in the
> >middle of this. I am running a business at the
> show. I
> >did Al and Achim a favor (I thought) by reporting
> >stolen pieces. I did not know the firestorm that
> would
> >follow. I have had at least 50 requests for prices
> >from 50 people, I don't have time to deal with
> these
> >emails, so by taking the last 30 minutes to posts
> the
> >hammer prices should release me from any more
> emails
> >to me. Others in the room can compare prices they
> >wrote down. the rest is between the interested
> parties
> >and the Langs.
> >Michael Farmer
> >This should end my involvement in the dispute I
> hope.
> >Perhaps next year, people could just come to my
> room,
> >and pay the fixed price listed, it would be less
> >painfull!
> >
> >Michael Farmer
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Mike Fowler <mqfowler at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Mike Farmer,
> > >
> > > This so much really needed to be done. Thanks
> for
> > > stepping up to the
> > > plate, even though you may receive vocal
> criticism
> > > from some. I'm
> > > sure those that are appreciative will out number
> > > those who oppose by
> > > at least 10 to one, even if they aren't so
> vocal.
> > >
> > > Thanks
>
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