[meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 5
From: Eric Wichman <eric_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:50:23 -0800 Message-ID: <20071203035021.DTUA16731.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net_at_fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> when did they sell? the list email just got delivered like 40 minutes ago... Arrggg! You have any more? Eric At 07:05 PM 12/2/2007, you wrote: >Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > meteorite-list-request at meteoritecentral.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > meteorite-list-owner at meteoritecentral.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest..." > >Today's Topics: > > 1. "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavated meteorite? > (chris aubeck) > 2. Re: "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavatedmeteorite? > (Chris Peterson) > 3. Re: "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavatedmeteorite? > (Michael Murray) > 4. Impact Craters, Meteorites & What They Mean To Us. (MW) > (Eric Wichman) > 5. "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated meteorite > (bernd.pauli at paulinet.de) > 6. Re: "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated meteorite > (Jeff Grossman) > 7. AD: NWA4649 - LL6 for sale (dean bessey) > 8. Re: "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated meteorite > (chris aubeck) > 9. Re: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - > December 2, 2007 (Jerry) > 10. magnetic meteorites (Michael Murray) > 11. AD: Seymchan Slices - Wholesale Lots (David & Kitt Deyarmin) > 12. Re: magnetic meteorites (Jason Utas) > 13. Re: magnetic meteorites (Ken Newton) > 14. Re: magnetic meteorites (Michael Murray) > 15. Re: magnetic meteorites (Jerry) > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >To: "Chauncey Walden" <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:56:01 +0100 >Message-ID: <3a5693b30712021056r62cf2164q1b644c69c97aff98 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for excavated > meteorite? >Message: 1 > >Hi list, > >Can anyone tell me when the word "fossil" was first used to describe >meteorites of this kind? > >The use of the term to refer to obtaining anything by digging comes >from the early 17th century, its use with chiefly organic remains a >century later (1736). I was wondering whether the word, in the field >of meteorites, had come to us from before 1736. > >Fossil: 1619, "obtained by digging" (adj.), from Fr. fossile, from L. >fossilis "dug up," from fossus, pp. of fodere "to dig," from PIE base >*bhedh- "to dig, pierce." > >http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fossil&searchmode=none > >Regards, > >Chris > > > > >On Dec 2, 2007 5:48 PM, Chauncey Walden <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> wrote: > > Dean, since the loose definition of "fossil" is any evidence of former > > life, obviously a meteorite, well, most;-), cannot be a fossil. Paleo, > > or "old", is the better term, and in the case in discussion represents a > > meteorite that has fallen in past times to the extent of having been > > incorporated into what became a geologic formation and, in some cases, > > weathered out again. Your confusion seems to be between fossilization, > > or the preservation of any evidence of former life (like a basically > > unaltered mammoth tusk in the Artic), and petrification, or the > > replacement or pereservation of material by the introduction of silica, > > like petrified wood. The interesting thing, is that in well preserved > > petrified wood the cellulose can remain. The silica can be dissolved out > > and the cellulose structure captured and studied, even to the extent of > > taking biologic stains. > > > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Chris Peterson" <clp at alumni.caltech.edu> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >References: <3a5693b30712021056r62cf2164q1b644c69c97aff98 at mail.gmail.com> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:11:53 -0700 >Message-ID: <01e101c83517$3adbc360$0a01a8c0 at bellatrix> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for > excavatedmeteorite? >Message: 2 > >I can't answer when, but I do think that using >"fossil" as an adjective applied to ancient >meteorites is perfectly acceptable. In geology >(and other sciences) it usually means anything >preserved from an earlier geologic age, not >necessarily something living. "Fossil meteorite" >is as valid as "fossil water". It is when using >"fossil" as a noun that you would be on thinner >ice, since that seems reserved for a remnant of an organism. > >Chris > >***************************************** >Chris L Peterson >Cloudbait Observatory >http://www.cloudbait.com > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com> >To: "Chauncey Walden" <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> >Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:56 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th >century term for excavatedmeteorite? > > >>Hi list, >> >>Can anyone tell me when the word "fossil" was first used to describe >>meteorites of this kind? >> >>The use of the term to refer to obtaining anything by digging comes >>from the early 17th century, its use with chiefly organic remains a >>century later (1736). I was wondering whether the word, in the field >>of meteorites, had come to us from before 1736. >> >>Fossil: 1619, "obtained by digging" (adj.), from Fr. fossile, from L. >>fossilis "dug up," from fossus, pp. of fodere "to dig," from PIE base >>*bhedh- "to dig, pierce." >> >>http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=fossil&searchmode=none >> >>Regards, >> >>Chris >> >> >> >> >>On Dec 2, 2007 5:48 PM, Chauncey Walden <clwaldeniii at comcast.net> wrote: >>>Dean, since the loose definition of "fossil" is any evidence of former >>>life, obviously a meteorite, well, most;-), cannot be a fossil. Paleo, >>>or "old", is the better term, and in the case in discussion represents a >>>meteorite that has fallen in past times to the extent of having been >>>incorporated into what became a geologic formation and, in some cases, >>>weathered out again. Your confusion seems to be between fossilization, >>>or the preservation of any evidence of former life (like a basically >>>unaltered mammoth tusk in the Artic), and petrification, or the >>>replacement or pereservation of material by the introduction of silica, >>>like petrified wood. The interesting thing, is that in well preserved >>>petrified wood the cellulose can remain. The silica can be dissolved out >>>and the cellulose structure captured and studied, even to the extent of >>>taking biologic stains. > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 12:15:43 -0700 >Message-ID: <65D6B6C7-98F0-4019-92C3-36C58F38F834 at montrose.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a 17th century term for > excavatedmeteorite? >Message: 3 > >Chris Peterson wrote: >"I can't answer when, but I do think that using "fossil" as an >adjective applied to ancient meteorites is perfectly acceptable. In >geology (and other sciences) it usually means anything preserved from >an earlier geologic age, not necessarily something living. "Fossil >meteorite" is as valid as "fossil water". It is when using "fossil" >as a noun that you would be on thinner ice, since that seems reserved >for a remnant of an organism." > > >Nicely stated Chris. I agree. > >Mike Murray > > > >From: Eric Wichman <eric at meteoritewatch.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >References: <mailman.628.1196614196.16755.meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >In-Reply-To: <mailman.628.1196614196.16755.meteorite-list at meteoritecentr > al.com> >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:48:51 -0800 >Message-ID: ><20071202194904.NWZA21007.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net at fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Subject: [meteorite-list] Impact Craters, > Meteorites & What They Mean To Us. (MW) >Message: 4 > > >Ok, it's been a while since I posted anything on >the MW site, so I figured I'd put something up >that I think everyone might have an appreciation >for. Something fun, light and educational. Some >of you who are familiar with the Earth Impact >Database already know about the craters listed >but I found this neat little link on Answers.com >that has a plethora of information on impact >craters that's not in the database. And it's not >just craters on earth either. There's links to >info about craters on just about every other >planet in our solar system and what impact list >would be complete without photos of our nearest celestial body the moon. > >I've also written a short article on impact >craters, meteorites and what I think they mean >to most of the people who spend almost every >waking hour hunting, researching, studying, and collecting these great rocks. > >Impact Craters, Meteorites & What They Mean To Us... www.meteoritewatch.com > >Impact crater info: http://www.answers.com/topic/impact-crater?cat=technology > >Impact crater photos : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Impact_crater > >Hope everyone enjoys... :) > > >Regards, >Eric Wichman >www.meteoritewatch.com >www.meteoritesusa.com >www.detectormax.com >eric at meteoritewatch.com > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit >From: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >Date: 02 Dec 2007 20:03:16 UT >Message-ID: <DIIE.000000BD0000235F at paulinet.de> >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Subject: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for excavated > meteorite >Message: 5 > >Chris inquired: > >"Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was > first used to describe meteorites of this kind? > >It looks like this word has never been used at any time >before the late 20th century to describe meteorites. > >Best regards, > >Bernd > > >BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408: > >Monturaqui: > >Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred >locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm >in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what remained >was really only the high-nickel rim zones >and the retained taenite (austenite) around >martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon >morphology. > >Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle >Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous >limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286). > >Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: >Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin >values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 m.y. >Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be >a fossil meteorite, but is probably a fragment >of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace >element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin >(Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992). > >SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for >preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites >from coal, trona, limestone and other >sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121): > >.. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest iron >(10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone >and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz L. >(1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113]. > >KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite >Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants >of an asteroid that catastrophically fragmented >in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and >Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998). > >GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil >iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044). > >NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite >(M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23). > >STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary study >of a new enstatite meteorite from >Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, 2000, >Suppl., A152): "...According to the >present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil >stone altered by weathering processes >(W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..." > >HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the >L-chondrite parent body breakup event? >Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old fossil >meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044). > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Jeff Grossman <jgrossman at usgs.gov> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >References: <DIIE.000000BD0000235F at paulinet.de> >In-Reply-To: <DIIE.000000BD0000235F at paulinet.de> >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:14:02 -0500 >Message-ID: <4753120A.7080902 at usgs.gov> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for > excavated meteorite >Message: 6 > >How about this abstract: Nininger, H.H. (1973) Fossil meteorites. >Meteoritics 8, p.61. > >http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=%3F%3F%3F%3FMetic...8&db_key=GEN&page_ind=86&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES&high=46562617c114850 > >jeff > >bernd.pauli at paulinet.de wrote: >>Chris inquired: >> >>"Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was >> first used to describe meteorites of this kind? >> >>It looks like this word has never been used at any time >>before the late 20th century to describe meteorites. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Bernd >> >> >>BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408: >> >>Monturaqui: >> >>Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred >>locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm >>in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what remained >>was really only the high-nickel rim zones >>and the retained taenite (austenite) around >>martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon >>morphology. >>Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle >>Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous >>limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286). >> >>Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: >>Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin >>values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 m.y. >>Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be >>a fossil meteorite, but is probably a fragment >>of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace >>element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin >>(Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992). >> >>SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for >>preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites >>from coal, trona, limestone and other >>sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121): >> >>.. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest iron >>(10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone >>and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz >>L. (1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113]. >> >>KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite >>Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants >>of an asteroid that catastrophically fragmented >>in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and >>Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998). >> >>GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil >>iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044). >> >>NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite >>(M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23). >> >>STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary study >>of a new enstatite meteorite from >>Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, 2000, >>Suppl., A152): "...According to the >>present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil >>stone altered by weathering processes >>(W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..." >> >>HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the >>L-chondrite parent body breakup event? >>Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old fossil >>meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044). >> >> >>______________________________________________ >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >From: dean bessey <deanbessey at yahoo.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >In-Reply-To: <4753120A.7080902 at usgs.gov> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 13:22:26 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <611640.1329.qm at web56104.mail.re3.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: NWA4649 - LL6 for sale >Message: 7 > >I had several dozen requests for the meteorite from my >posting yesterday so that motivated me to build a sale >page. Probably not enough to go around so order >quickly if you want any. >http://www.meteoriteshop.com/metsale/ws-sale9.html >20% discount to list members for orders today. >Postage extra and paypal great for payment. >Sincerely >DEAN >http://www.meteoriteshop.com > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you >with Yahoo Mobile. Try it >now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ > > > >From: "chris aubeck" <caubeck at gmail.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >To: bernd.pauli at paulinet.de >References: <DIIE.000000BD0000235F at paulinet.de> >In-Reply-To: <DIIE.000000BD0000235F at paulinet.de> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 22:24:21 +0100 >Message-ID: <3a5693b30712021324m20c695a8l5e4c9551c4424956 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "Fossil" as a [17th century] term for > excavated meteorite >Message: 8 > >Hi, > >I have found several references from 1871, using Google Book Search. > >Viewing is restricted to: > >"Fossil Meteorite.? A new meteorite has just >been discovered in the mioc?ne ... >This is the first instance on record of a truly fossil meteorite having been" > >You can see further examples here: > >http://books.google.es/books?q=%22fossil+meteorite%22 > >I don't know what it is referring to. > >Best, > >Chris > >On 02 Dec 2007 20:03:16 UT, <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> wrote: > > Chris inquired: > > > > "Can anyone tell me when the word 'fossil' was > > first used to describe meteorites of this kind? > > > > It looks like this word has never been used at any time > > before the late 20th century to describe meteorites. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Bernd > > > > > > BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, pp. 1403-1408: > > > > Monturaqui: > > > > Taenite ribbons and plessite fields occurred > locally; the fields were up to 1.1 x 0.4 mm > > in size, but were "fossil"; i.e., what > remained was really only the high-nickel rim zones > > and the retained taenite (austenite) around > martensite of high-nickel, high-carbon > > morphology. > > > > Thorslund, P., Wickman, F.E. (1981) Middle > Ordovician chondrite in fossiliferous > > limestone from Brunflo, central Sweden (Nature, 289:285- 286). > > > > Catalogue of Meteorites (5th ed.) - Mar'inka: > Cosmogenic Mn-53 is also similar to Sikhote-Alin > > values; it gives a terrestrial age of < 10 > m.y. Alekseev et al. conclude that Mar'inka cannot be > > a fossil meteorite, but is probably a > fragment of Sikhote-Alin, while some details of its trace > > element chemistry differ from Sikhote-Alin > (Met.Bull. 72, Meteoritics 27, 1992). > > > > SICREE A.A. et al. (1997) Potential for > preservation and recovery of fossil iron meteorites > > from coal, trona, limestone and other > sedimentary rocks (Meteoritics 32-4, 1997, A121): > > > > .. Lake Murray (Oklahoma), a IIB coarsest > iron (10 mm) found in Cretaceous sandstone > > and the oldest known 'paleoiron' [Ref.: LaPaz > L. (1953) Meteoritics 1, pp. 109-113]. > > > > KRING D.A. et al. (1998) Gold Basin Meteorite > Strewn Field: The 'Fossil' remnants > > of an asteroid that catastrophically > fragmented in Earth's atmosphere (Lunar and > > Planetary Science XXIX, in press, 1998). > > > > GOLD D.P. et al. (1999) A strategy for the search and recovery of fossil > > iron meteorites in sedimentary rocks (MAPS 34-4, 1999, A044). > > > > NORTON O.R. (1999) The Lake Murray octahedrite - a "fossil" meteorite > > (M! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4, pp. 22-23). > > > > STEPNIEWSKI M. et al. (2000) Preliminary > study of a new enstatite meteorite from > > Zaklodzie - southeast Poland (MAPS 35-5, > 2000, Suppl., A152): "...According to the > > present results, Zaklodzie could be a fossil > stone altered by weathering processes > > (W1/W2) and preserved in quaternary loess sediment ..." > > > > HECK PH.R. et al. (2003) Evidence for the > L-chondrite parent body breakup event? > > Cosmic-ray exposure ages of 480 Myr old > fossil meteorites (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A044). > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Jerry" <grf2 at verizon.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <SPACEROCKSINC at aol.com>, <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >References: <c56.24ea00a5.34841703 at aol.com> >In-Reply-To: <c56.24ea00a5.34841703 at aol.com> >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:11:47 -0500 >Message-ID: <DED61086B1A54F5A842D48B59FDBEAEF at Notebook> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December > 2, 2007 >Message: 9 > >Talk about not reading the whole text. I began >googling dagogah swamp cave "meteorite" >DOH DU. [good old Joba] >But that takes nothing away from a most >astoundingly, interesting and pleasing >photograph by Tom and pride in ownership by Jeff. >Blowing that up to Exhibit size, would create >abundant interest at any art gallery sure to >inspire calls for the appearance of the artist. >Thank you Michael for your continued inspiration. >Jerry Flaherty >----- Original Message ----- From: <SPACEROCKSINC at aol.com> >To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:11 AM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space >Picture of the Day - December 2, 2007 > > >>http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_2_2007.html >> >> >> >> >> >>**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest >>products. >>(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) >>______________________________________________ >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:43:20 -0700 >Message-ID: <207615A4-3278-4803-A50A-B8B4F2437D4A at montrose.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >Subject: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites >Message: 10 > >Hi List, >I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be >magnetic. Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a >meteorite(s). Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer >information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures) >of such an iron? Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right? >If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am >interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion >crust. I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is. > >Mike Murray > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "David & Kitt Deyarmin" <bobadebt at ec.rr.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:26:13 -0500 >Message-ID: <009601c8354b$7ea21570$e3f33842 at David> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original >Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Seymchan Slices - Wholesale Lots >Message: 11 > >I have 2 lots of freshly cut Seymchan Slices. > >My cutting process leave a very smooth surface >and very little sanding and polishing is required to etch these slices. > >This is the last of the Seymchan that I have. > >If you're interested in either or both lots send >an email off list to bobadebt at ec.rr.com > >Thanks > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >LOT 1 - 8 Slices / Total Weight 141 Grams / $70 > >I was testing the limits of my cutting process >by trying to see how thin I could cut a slice so >slice thickness of this lot varies from 1mm to 4mm > >They are all about the same size which is approximately 45mm x 35mm > >http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/8Slices.jpg > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >LOT 2 - 12 Slices & 1 End Cut / Total Weight 538 Grams / $250 > >This lot was cut to a consistent thickness of >approximately 4mm, a few slices vary due to >blade changes but overall they are very close. >The last cut is thicker and has a slight taper. > > >http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/12Slices.jpg > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid at gmail.com> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >References: <207615A4-3278-4803-A50A-B8B4F2437D4A at montrose.net> >In-Reply-To: <207615A4-3278-4803-A50A-B8B4F2437D4A at montrose.net> >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:17:05 -0800 >Message-ID: <93aaac890712021817j60610836r3e095963d2a265e6 at mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites >Message: 12 > >Hello Mike, >~92% of all meteorites are magnetic; all irons, all stony irons, and >nearly all stones are magnetic. >The only meteorites that are not magnetic would be the HED's (some of >these are slightly magentic), as well as Aubrites (though some of >these contain iron as well), planetary meteorites (oftentimes >*slightly* attracted to a neodymium magnet, though one should never >poke such meteorites with a magnet), and Rumuruti chondrites (in this >case, because most of the iron is contained within iron sulfide, and >is thus non-magnetic). >Depending on the stone, a few carbonaceous meteorites are lightly >magnetic, but in general, they tend to be magnetic as well. >Almost all meteorites are magnetic...I don't know where you heard >otherwise, but...yeah. >Regards, >Jason > >On Dec 2, 2007 4:43 PM, Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> wrote: > > Hi List, > > I've read somewhere that it is possible for a meteorite to be > > magnetic. Reading that made me believe someone has discovered such a > > meteorite(s). Anyone out there on the List want to volunteer > > information and/or maybe some pictures (or a link to some pictures) > > of such an iron? Let me guess this first, mostly kamacite, right? > > If you have pictures, besides wanting to confirm my guess, I am > > interested in seeing the exterior, as in flow features and fusion > > crust. I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is. > > > > Mike Murray > > ______________________________________________ > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Ken Newton <magellon at earthlink.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Cc: metlist <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >To: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> >References: <207615A4-3278-4803-A50A-B8B4F2437D4A at montrose.net> >In-Reply-To: <207615A4-3278-4803-A50A-B8B4F2437D4A at montrose.net> >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:43:53 -0500 >Message-ID: <47536D69.7020505 at earthlink.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites >Message: 13 > >Hi Michael, >Magnetic can mean more than one thing: >1. of or pertaining to a magnet or magnetism. >2. having the properties of a magnet. >3. capable of being magnetized or attracted by a magnet. >4. pertaining to the magnetic field of the earth: the magnetic equator. >5. exerting a strong attractive power or charm: a magnetic personality. >6. noting or pertaining to various bearings >and measurements as indicated by a magnetic >compass: magnetic amplitude; magnetic course; magnetic meridian. > >The definition pertaining to meteorites is #3 not #2. >Best, >ken > > > >Michael Murray wrote: >>Hi List, >>I've read somewhere that it is possible for a >>meteorite to be magnetic. Reading that made me >>believe someone has discovered such a >>meteorite(s). Anyone out there on the List >>want to volunteer information and/or maybe some >>pictures (or a link to some pictures) of such >>an iron? Let me guess this first, mostly >>kamacite, right? If you have pictures, besides >>wanting to confirm my guess, I am interested in >>seeing the exterior, as in flow features and >>fusion crust. I would also be interested in knowing just how magnetic it is. >> >>Mike Murray >>______________________________________________ >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: Michael Murray <mmurray at montrose.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:33:00 -0700 >Message-ID: <2767033C-389F-4396-A905-C05A737AE9C9 at montrose.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites >Message: 14 > >Hi Jason, List >Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote "magnetic". What I was >looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets. > >Sorry 'bout that >Mike > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Jerry" <grf2 at verizon.net> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at montrose.net>, > <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >References: <2767033C-389F-4396-A905-C05A737AE9C9 at montrose.net> >In-Reply-To: <2767033C-389F-4396-A905-C05A737AE9C9 at montrose.net> >Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:04:25 -0500 >Message-ID: <D14479010CBF422C8795DD26D05DFCF1 at Notebook> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=response >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites >Message: 15 > >It is my understanding that most iron objects >are susceptible to being magnitized, turned into >magnets, if exposed to a strong magnetic field. >So if a meteorite containing iron is exposed to >strong ENOUGH magnets for long ENOUGH [note the >qualifying capitalization], under the RIGHT >circunstances it would not be impossible for SOME to become magnets. >Jerry Flaherty >----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at montrose.net> >To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:33 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic meteorites > > >>Hi Jason, List >>Perhaps I used the wrong word when I wrote >>"magnetic". What I was looking for was info on meteorites that are magnets. >> >>Sorry 'bout that >>Mike >>______________________________________________ >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Sun 02 Dec 2007 10:50:23 PM PST |
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