[meteorite-list] More Muck from Paul

From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:59:04 -0500
Message-ID: <004b01c7e531$911f1500$c92ce146_at_ATARIENGINE>

John,

    There is a list rule about "courtesy" and "professionalism"
which is widely interpreted as "no personal attacks." A post
that addresses only the supposed character of another poster
without even mentioning the subject under discussion is, well,
a personal attack.

    "Courtesy" may be open to question sometimes, but I'm
pretty sure to have any "professionalism" you have to actually
talk about what you're talking about. The subject is the reliability
(and the interpretation) of an oral (possibly written) tradition.

    The Walam Olum is a subject of controversy greater than
the controversies about impacts that were being discussed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walam_Olum . Check it out.

    Ed believes it preserves an ancient account. Darren is
skeptical of that. They said so, and they said why. It's open
to argument and amenable to discussion. What's your opinion?

    I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. I'm just saying,
let's talk about the topic, and not the person.


Sterling K. Webb
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----- Original Message -----
From: "JKGwilliam" <h3chondrite at cox.net>
To: "Chris Merry" <lmerry95 at insightbb.com>; "meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More Muck from Paul


Thank you Chris...you said it better than I could.

Regards,
John Gwilliam

At 10:24 AM 8/22/2007, Chris Merry wrote:
>Mr. Garrison,
>Can't you ever just get happy and respect others beliefs and refrain
>from your silly remarks? I think you need some Xanax or something;
>but you just seem like some little person that just sits around
>waiting for a chance to show just how much you can hate a certain
>group of people with certain beliefs. You are a sad little
>person--you kind of remind me of the Grinch.
>
>Chris Merry
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Garrison" <cynapse at charter.net>
>To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] More Muck from Paul
>
>
>>Oh, gosh, I guess I owe you an apology when I thought you were just
>>grasping at
>>straws, coming up with silly inventions to try to twist dime-a-dozen
>>creation
>>fairy tales (which have been corrupted by centuries of exposure to
>>Christian
>>symbology) into historical records of past impacts. But this isn't
>>BS at all!
>>What a clear story of cometary impact! Boy, is my face red!
>>
>>/sarcasm generator
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>>
>>>1. Long ago there was a Mighty Snake [comet], and
>>>beings evil to men.
>>>2. This Mighty Snake [comet] hated those who were
>>>there,
>>>(and) he greatly disquieted those whom he hated.
>>>3. He harmed all things, he injured all things,
>>>and all were not in peace.
>>>4. Driven from their homes, the men fought with this
>>>murderer.
>>>5. The Mighty Snake [comet] firmly resolved to harm
>>>the men.
>>>6. The Mighty Snake [comet] brought three persons
>>>[fragments?],
>>>he brought a monster [impact],
>>>he brought rushing water [an impact mega-tsunami].
>>>7. Between the hills the water rushed and rushed,
>>>dashing through and through, destroying much.
>>>8. Nanabush, the Strong White One, Grandfather of
>>>beings, Grandfather of men, was on Turtle Island.
>>>9. There he was walking and creating:
>>>and as he passed by,
>>>he created the turtle [skin boats?].
>>>10. Beings and men all went forth,
>>>they walked in the floods and shallow waters,
>>>down stream there in the turtle [skin boats?].
>>>11. There were many monster fishes, which ate some of
>>>them.
>>>12. The Great Mind's daughter came,
>>>and helped with her canoe [wooden boat]:
>>>she helped all, as they came and came.
>>>13. Thus Nanabush, Nanabush, the Grandfather of all,
>>>the Grandfather of beings, the Grandfather of men,
>>>became the Grandfather of the turtle [skin boats?].
>>>14. The men were then together on the Great Turtle
>>>[the Earth], like turtles.
>>>15. Frightened on the Great Turtle [the Earth],
>>>they prayed that what was spoiled should be restored.
>>>16. The water ran off, the earth dried, the lakes were
>>>at rest,
>>>all was silent, and the Mighty Snake [comet] departed.
>>>
>>>Part III
>>>1. After the rushing waters [had finished],
>>>the Lenape of the [Sea] Turtle were close together,
>>>living together there in hollow houses..
>>>2. It froze where they lived, it snowed where they
>>>lived, it stormed where they lived, it was cold where
>>>they lived.
>>>3. At this northern place they spoke favorably
>>>of mild, cool (lands), with many deer and buffaloes.
>>>4. As they journeyed, some being strong, and others
>>>rich, they separated into house-builders and hunters;
>>>5. The strongest, the most united, the purest, were
>>>the hunters.
>>>6. The hunters showed themselves at the north, at the
>>>east, at the south, at the west.
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