[meteorite-list] AD - New Rare EL3 Paleo-Meteorite - NWA 2828

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Sep 7 13:18:06 2006
Message-ID: <C125A240.2E42E%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Hi Doug and all,
        Unless I am mistaken "Paleo" is Greek for "ancient." (Scientists
are particularly fond of Greek and Latin) While all meteorites are
ancient, Paleo meteorite, meaning one that has been subjected to the
earth's atmosphere for millions of years, would seem to be an appropriate
use of terminology.
        Best wishes, Michael

on 9/7/06 9:52 AM, MexicoDoug at MexicoDoug_at_aim.com wrote:

> Hello Greg and Listees,
>
> There are a few posters and other scientific references that google up for
> "paleometeorite". I liked your rationale given, though I have this question
> based on your explanation:
>
> All meteorites are ancient and to our knowledge a record of the early
> formation of the Solar System, but the word "fossil" implies some sort of
> mineralogical replacement processes occurring afterwards. Does Paleo-
> include this, or simply say it is ancient? As for the fossil meteorite and
> fossils in meteorites, another descriptor like "relict" would be more
> appropriate if you want to be true to geology jargon. Relict implies that
> some of the original character remains, though mineral replacement has also
> occurred - but it is quite recognizable. Paleo- to me reminds me of the
> likes Peking man!
>
> Just a thought, and you can call it paleo all you want since you're doing
> the work (saw your name was on the poster at the LPI meeting, congrats),
>
> Best wishes, Doug
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - New Rare EL3 Paleo-Meteorite - NWA 2828
>
>
>> Dear Jeff and other NWA 2828 EL3 enthusiasts,
>>
>> paleo-meteorite or "fossil" meteorite? That is the question...
>>
>> In a short conversation with one of the lead scientists who have and are
>> studying NWA 2828 and the other recent enstatite meteorites, they referred
>> to 2828 as a paleo-meteorite instead of "fossil" meteorite so people would
>> not think they referred to ancient life being found in it. The term
> "fossil"
>> meteorite has been used to describe several ancient meteorites that were
>> found in rocks or sediments; a 480 million year old quarried Swedish
>> limestone, a meteorite found in a drillcore through the impact melt sheet
> of
>> the 145 million year old Morokweng Crater, to name a couple. The word
> fossil
>> in geology has the strong connotation as evidence of life but literally
>> means "dug up". The prefix paleo- means ancient, so a paleo-meteorite
> would
>> be an ancient meteorite. That term does not necessarily mean that it was
>> excavated nor does it say how old it is, but sedimentary processes on
> earth
>> tend to bury objects on the surface after tens to hundreds of thousands of
>> years. It definitely was transported and abraded by water flow, then
> buried
>> and cemented into a terrestrial conglomerate and then dug up. In short,
> the
>> best way to describe NWA 2828 is either "fossil" meteorite or
>> paleo-meteorite but has nothing to do with ancient life. Terrestrial age
>> dating is currently being performed and a new abstract has been submitted.
>>
>> I hope this answers some of the questions this "new" and exciting
> meteorite
>> has brought up.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Greg
>> P.S. I loaded several more slices of NWA 2828 if anyone wants to have a
>> look.
>>
>> ====================
>> Greg Hupe
>> The Hupe Collection
>> NaturesVault (eBay)
>> gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com
>> IMCA 3163
>> ====================
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Grossman" <jgrossman_at_usgs.gov>
>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - New Rare EL3 Paleo-Meteorite - NWA 2828
>>
>>
>>> What the heck is a "paleometeorite", how is it different from a fossil
>>> meteorite, and why is NWA 2828 called this?
>>>
>>> jeff
>>>
>>> At 01:33 PM 9/5/2006, Greg Hupe wrote:
>>>> Dear List Members,
>>>>
>>>> I am pleased to announce a new and very rare EL3 Paleo-Meteorite. It is
>>>> NWA 2828 and was originally thought to be an aubrite but after
> additional
>>>> material was cut and analyzed at the University of Washington and NAU, a
>>>> few radial pyroxene chondrules were discovered. EL3's are even rarer
> than
>>>> aubrites so the re-classification turned out to a pleasant surprise.
> What
>>>> is interesting about NWA 2828 is the very low count of chondrules
>>>> throughout the individual stones, less than 1%! It has taken nearly a
> year
>>>> of hard work by myself and the scientists to get this properly
> classified
>>>> so if you are interested, purchase your EL3 material from the official
>>>> source for NWA 2828 where you know you will get a great deal and the
> right
>>>> meteorite.
>>>>
>>>> I have loaded 36 slices, end cuts and individuals on eBay under my
> seller
>>>> name, NaturesVault. Here are the direct links to these very low
>>>> introductory-priced specimens:
>>>>
>>>> NWA 2828 EL3 Meteorite Specimens:
>>>> Slices
>>
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>>
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>>>> End Cuts
>>
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>>
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>>>>
>>>> In addition to these great deals, I have a number of excellent auctions
>>>> ending tomorrow and Thursday. Be sure to check then out as many are
> still
>>>> at just 99 cents.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards and Thank You for looking and/or bidding, I appreciate it!
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>> ====================
>>>> Greg Hupe
>>>> The Hupe Collection
>>>> NaturesVault (eBay)
>>>> gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com
>>>> IMCA 3163
>>>> ====================
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>> US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383
>>> 954 National Center
>>> Reston, VA 20192, USA
>>>
>>>
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