[meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?

From: MexicoDoug <MexicoDoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon Oct 30 03:28:39 2006
Message-ID: <030101c6fbfd$43d75140$0325a2ac_at_thedawning>

Thank you for crossing out the active GEIDAM "for sale" ad today, Matteo, on
the meteorite.com classifieds. Did you contact any buyers from this same
material you offered on eBay about 6 months ago to make correct those as
well? If you had any customers, please let them all know if you have not
already. Several months ago I tried to address your meteorite.com ad
quietly by writing to the kind sponsors of that site regarding and nothing
happened although they promised to investigate. I was sure you'd be
contacted and it would be removed and I was disappointed nothing happened.

I will stop wondering why nothing happened for several months and chalk it
up to an oversight - now that you've kindly and responsibly removed it. In
Mexico we deal with oversights every day when shopping in corner stores and
the like and we become jaded. There is a pattern. The onus for correction
is always on the buyer to say they've been shortchanged, bought something
that is less than it is claimed to be, etc., and to ask for resolution,
which many people simply are too timid or lacking self-confidence to do.
For some reason it never happens that we get extra change when making a
purchase, or we don't get gold when paying for silver (which we would give
back of course). So if someone does the same thing twice my policy is to
kindly blacklist them and tell all of my friends in confidence to do the
same. Thanks to Art for the opportunity toair the autumn laundry.

Now this leaves Steve alone, who I hope will follow suite so I can get off
the GEIDAM crusading pulpit. I am not suggesting anything bad about
inattention or mistakes on Matteo's part, please my respect only goes to him
for cleaning up. I am suggesting it is not worth anyone's while to ever be
involved in transactions that could be perceived reasonably as questionable.
That's the motivation to remember you have a fake meteorite up for sale on
the major independent commercial meteorite site and need to pull it before
the next Christmas.

PS Matteo, I hope that the "fake Geidam" meteorite we received is something
else even better, as I have at least 100grams of it and am waiting to hear
back to make my decision as the kind principal dealer offered. There is
really no need to pass a "gato por liebre" (how do you say that in English?,
I forgot). It is some other meteorite just as nice to own. Good luck
Matteo, too. If anyone has real specimens from the GEIDAM locality, please
let me know, even if it isn't for sale, I'd love to have the pleasure of a
consolation photo.
Best wishes, Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it>
To: "MexicoDoug" <MexicoDoug_at_aim.com>; "steve arnold"
<stevenarnold60120_at_yahoo.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale...authenticity problem?


> The main seller of this material have addvise all this
> material is not Geidam and analysis its in course for
> seen what is it. For the piece I have for sale, I have
> removed, its months I not go in the site.
>
> Matteo
>
> --- MexicoDoug <MexicoDoug_at_aim.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Chi Steve wrote:
> >
> > "and a 14 gram slice of GEIDAM with crust for $175.
> > I will pay all postage
> > and shipping."
> >
> > Hello Steve, please, I know you are trying hard and
> > sometimes things are
> > getting out of control.
> >
> > I am sorry to have to post this as I am in favor of
> > a kinder and gentler
> > list where respect is maintained at all reasonable
> > times, and I just don't
> > feel like getting involved in commercial arguments
> > where I have no business
> > and correspond with more and more list members who
> > all enthused about the
> > same wonderful field of Space science that I am.
> > But:
> >
> > I want to alledge that this GEIDAM misrepresentation
> > has been on too long
> > and no one has any reason to perpetuate it. There
> > are at least three
> > dealers, not just Steve, currently offering Geidam
> > and I understand they are
> > all from the some source via a top notch ace of a
> > dealer in Alaska who was
> > misrepresented by someone near the locality causing
> > this. Alaska was very
> > kind to inform that it was a mistake and very
> > honorable and reasonable as
> > far as I can tell about the whole thing. Perhaps it
> > is another even better
> > meteorite locality. But let's keep AUTHENTIC guys.
> > From Italy to New
> > Mexico it is being offered, Matteo once complained
> > about the same thing.
> > But Matteo is still selling it!:
> >
> http://www.meteorite-times.com/classifieds/classified.php/listing/379
> >
> > Guys, Please can we all be friends and treat
> > AUTHENTICITY as a DIVINITY our
> > community! I truly hope someone in the know can
> > tell me I am dead wrong
> > about this locality and at least some of the
> > specimens that have hit the
> > market in recent months. I am puzzled why the
> > community is not doing a
> > better job of policing itself and that hurts my
> > confidence in the whole.
> >
> > Thanks kindly
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
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