[meteorite-list] ID cards

From: Alexander Seidel <gsac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:40:11 +0100
Message-ID: <20061116184011.314930_at_gmx.net>

It won?t work, it simply won?t work! Collectors are individuals, some shy, some loud, some like to hide in the dark, some prefer to stand in the light, some like handwritten labels, some like typed labels, some like it hot, some like it cold etc etc... You know what I mean? You won?t find a consensus, we are as different collector types as there are different meteorites to collect on Earth.

And - after all - it is fun, it is a hobby, it is not comparable to selling cars where the seller/buyer have to do their paperwork, and register with the local offices for a new license plate!

Rest assured: the CAREFUL collector will always handle his/her goodies to the best of his/her knowledge, taking care for all relevant info on his specimens, and of course let a potential buyer have all the necessary facts, when a specimen moves. But he will do it his/her way.

[PS: I do it my way.] :-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany


> There is nothing to control?, no central institution. it's just a piece
> of paper with a history of the piece, where people can add their own
> comments/name to the list on the card and when they sell it they pass it
> on, (or if its cut, then it is photocopied and the new details written
> on for the new piece....
>
> Either that or we all agree an industry standard set of things to put on
> a card, so that everyone's card has the same basic information on it,
> because at the moment I get cards with rocks that don't even tell you the
> weight?!!
>
> Mark
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Altmann [mailto:altmann at meteorite-martin.de]
> Sent: 16 November 2006 15:53
> To: mark ford; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] ID cards
>
> Hmm, I understand,
>
> most professional dealers will add that kind of information, simply
> because
> it makes a piece more covetable.
>
> But to maintain a superordinate comprehensive system, which would allow to
> trace back each specimen from the 20kg chunk to the entropical speck,
> isn't workable without compulsion.
>
> First one would need a central institution, who would record each cutting
> process and the results, those who pledge themselves to that system, would
> have to work with highiest discipline.
> Imagine a piece is going through 8 different hands, each time portionated
> into smaller sevings.
>
> PF 14.25.7.3.1.2.4.1141
> (figure on last place was falling the hammer for the specks...).
>
> Who could this control? IMCA?
> They would have to print and distribute blank forms, numbered for the
> case,
> that some would have to be barred, if a abuse appears.
> Uuh and remember already now some people complaining about the horrible
> yearly fee.
>
> And you would have to buy a lot more from Chladni's Heirs, for them being
> able to employ a secretary for the paperwork gotten out of hand.
>
> Martin Buckleboo
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von mark
> ford
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 16:22
> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ID cards
>
>
> True but I was thinking more about a 'traceable route' than just a
> glorified
> label, things like TKW, even classification can change over a meteorites
> life ... but information like 'I sprayed VCI all over it', 'ex nininger',
> 'part of the piece that smashed up a house' all this information is
> important stuff, especially if it was ever studied scientifically.
>
> You can of course just collect 'space rocks', but many of us collect
> historic meteorites too !! I am concerned that we are not leaving much
> historical stuff for future generations.
>
> How many pieces of the Garza stone are now sitting in plastic boxes with
> a
> label saying 'Park Forest'?? What about the story behind it or the fact
> that
> it never touched the ground or got wet in the rain?
>
> I could go on a million times but I will leave it at that.
> Mark
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