[meteorite-list] Re: CV metachondrite pairings

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat May 20 20:53:20 2006
Message-ID: <033801c67c70$e090b880$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Not once did I call you a name or use profanity in our discussions. Calling
me a liar and an arse are not signs of a true professional.

Remarks like this show where you are coming from:

Just keep saying to yourself - sticks and stones may break my bones but
words will never hurt me.

I am very disappointed but will get over it.

Have a nice evening,

Adam
:

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Weir" <dgweir_at_earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: CV metachondrite pairings


> Adam Hupe wrote:
> > First of all, thank you for finally contacting the scientists and
reporting
> > your findings.
>
> Wrong, Ted called me. The issue of 3133 and 1839 being paired or not
> actually didn't even come up in our conversation since there was so much
> else of interest to discuss. I didn't sleep all night thinking of the
> exciting things we discussed, but I guess I'm a bit obsessed with this
> subject. It was in a separate e-mail in which I answered his query about
> the wording error on his website, something you posted you had done some
> time ago. Obviously this wording was a leftover from an earlier time
> when a pairing was suspected.
>
> > In a prior post I stated that I thought the probabilities would be
> > vanishingly small (although not zero) to find two unpaired, CV
> > metachondrites, with overlapping mineralogy and chemistry, at the same
> > proximity and time.
> >
> > My response is:
> >
> > Nobody knows what proximity they were found and they were classified at
> > different times. They came for two different sources, we do not purchase
> > material from Aziz. Who says both are related to the CV parent body? COs
> > plot slightly different.
>
> The proximity I was referring to was the Moroccan/Algerian desert, and
> the time is the same short period that you have been involved in
> meteorites. I have seen the plot on the CV mixing line for both
> meteorites and they are darn close. In fact, certain select isotope runs
> virtually overlap. However, I would welcome the first CO metachondrite
> to my collection!
>
> > Now I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge my gratitude
and
> > friendship to Aziz Habibi for gifting me almost a gram of NWA011/2400
> > (that's 1000 x what I have!), which will now become the official
> > representative specimen of this probably extinct asteroid on my website.
> > Many thanks Aziz!
> >
> > My response is:
> >
> > How could it be official when it has not been studied and no
nomenclature
> > has been given to this piece? This is the same kind of proclamation
that
> > causes problems and lengthy debates.
>
> The "official" part was obviously meant to refer to my website only,
> that is clear in my statement, and does not infer any pedigree from
> NomCom or anyone else. I have no idea where Aziz got this gift from;
> perhaps he acquired it from Ron Farrell in care of his partner Terry
> Boswell. Perhaps it is a piece of the original rock that he might have
> acquired from the Russians or Japanese. Perhaps a new pairing yet to be
> officially confirmed. I am not so rude as to question his generosity
> like you seem to want me to do. If you don't like which photos I use on
> my website to represent a particular meteorite, then may I invite you to
> avoid any confusion in your mind and not visit meteoritestudies.com in
> the future.
>
> >
> > Feeling a little vindicated after being called a liar,
>
> You are special Adam, don't let anyone affect your self esteem by
> calling you bad names. Just keep saying to yourself - sticks and stones
> may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
>
> Till later,
> David
Received on Sat 20 May 2006 08:51:40 PM PDT