[meteorite-list] Henbury - Wabar History

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Mar 9 00:49:41 2006
Message-ID: <20060309054938.62353.qmail_at_web26201.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Bernd, unfortunately in this list its many few the
persons write type you, reasoning and understanding,
here its full of person attack without no sense, and
this sinceraly I not understand and have many broken
me....for the faoult of few persons have put on my
person fake insinuations, now all attack me....its
erred is not possible put the private emails arrive to
me in pubblic where many persons give a opinion on
this persons....for the Saint, I have say this why the
21 September here its St.Matteo, I do not if in USA
they know it or they do not know it. For the Altmann
answer I not have seen why I have put in spam box just
for its answer with no-sense....and I see the last on
Pope its one this, from a dutch person then.....when
the Pope its a dutch. For the Tessera meteorite I have
been give all informations, many others have seen the
meteorite and study have say its 100% NOT PULTUSK! Now
I say stop to broken with this insinuations why it
have broken not only me but many others persons in
this list! For Wabar and Henbury I have riceved all
informations from one of the few persons in this list
I save from the group. On Farmer I not loose any other
time to explaine, its hard....

Matteo


--- bernd.pauli_at_paulinet.de ha scritto:

> Original mail:
>
> "Hello I need a short history of the Henbury and
> Wabar meteorites. Thanks Matteo"
>
> I can see a "hello" to the List and a "thanks", ...
> my rating: polite and friendly
>
> First response:
>
> "Buy the Catalog of Meteorites or the Handbook of
> Meteorites."
>
> Neither friendly nor unfriendly but you feel the
> "cool distance".
>
> Matteo's reaction, part 1, slightly corrected
> translation - I hope Matteo doesn't mind:
>
> "too much few (= the information is not
> comprehensive enough) .... (what) I need (is)
> a history with information on the craters (that were
> found) and of the meteorites."
>
> Any offence, any insinuations, any attacks? I can't
> detect any!
>
> Matteo's reaction, part 2:
>
> "Farmer, if you (had) only seen what (a wonderful)
> piece of Henbury has
> just arrived. Uhauhauha ... I say only its a end
> piece of 2.14 kg. Matteo"
>
> Well, as Mikes will state in a future mail, it is
> one his former pieces and Matteo
> only wanted to express it is a beautiful piece. No
> more no less (as I see it!)
>
> Mike Farmer:
>
> "I jut sold an individual of 10 kilos to a list
> member. So
> I am not that envious Matteo. Congrats though. Mike"
>
> Appropriate reaction with regard to the congrats but
> I don't think Matteo wanted
> to arouse anybody's, and above all, not Mike
> Farmer's envy, especially because
> the piece seems to come from Mike Farmer! (provided
> I get things right!)
>
> Matteo: "mmmmmm its write Mike Farmer
> collection...... Matteo!
>
> Mike Farmer:
>
> "No Matteo, it was in my collection, I sold it."
>
> That's splitting hairs, Mike. We all know, and it is
> NOT a shame that Matteo's
> English is not perfect (mine isn't either - you
> don't have to tell me ;-)
>
> Mike Farmer:
>
> " You are the man, the shiznit, da bomb, you are the
> top collector in the world.
> Maybe the Pope will make you a saint?"
>
> Now it is getting aggressive, and it's not Matteo
> who started it (unless there were
> private mails off-list, which I don't know, of
> course!)
>
> Mike Farmer:
>
> "I congratulated you, and you harass me. What else
> is new? Mike"
>
> What with? .. again I don't know if he sent you any
> private mails that are offensive.
> If he did he had better stop. If he did not I can't
> see you being harassed by him.
>
> Darren:
>
> "Well, first the Earth cooled. First the earth
> cooled. And then the dinosaurs came,
> but they got too big and fat, so they all died and
> they turned into oil. And then the
> Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And
> Prince Charles started
> wearing all of Lady Di's clothes."
>
> I am pretty sure that no one on the List would
> appreciate receiving such foolish
> mails from me or anyone else. It will only lead to
> an escalation of the situation.
> As there was nothing unfriendly about Matteo's first
> mail, I don't understand what
> such a mail can do!
>
> Matteo (who ignored the preceding mail - good he did
> so!):
>
> "Farmer, you (only) see the negativity in all
> messages
> ...I am already a holy one, look the 21
> September....
>
> "I am already a holy one" ... probably something
> went wrong when this was translated
> from Italian into English.
>
> Buckleboo's (inappropriate) response:
>
> "The Bavarian Pope would suggest an exorcism first,
> before he would do so."
>
> On the one hand, a translation mistake, on the other
> "exorcism" ???
>
> " ... Matteo the Mouth, ..."
>
> Martin, would you like to be called "Martin, the
> Mouth" in an open forum???
>
> Martin: "wouldn't answer to the Tessera mail, lucky
> me that I didn't accept"
>
> Don't be too fast with such "insinuations" - maybe
> it will take Matteo a bit more
> time to respond to such "accusations". If I had
> trouble expressing myself in
> English and if I was exposed to such aggressiveness,
> I would grow wary.
>
> Martin, why does a man of your intelligence stoop to
> such a low, mean level?
> You don't have to send me private emails (as you did
> tonight). I won't answer
> them. You, and others, attack another list member in
> public so I don't see any
> reason why I should respond behind the curtains.
>
> The person Martin referred to in his private mail is
> a very respectable, knowledgeable,
> and competent member of our meteoritical community
> and I have no reason to doubt
> his words (objective words!) but, he too, is very,
> very careful about direct accusations.
>
> I don't know if Matteo did find these meteorites or
> if it is a hoax. If he did find them ... good!
> if he didn't ... bad and nothing to be proud of!
> But if anyone (whoever it is) politely asks for
> information on Wabar and Henbury, I would expect
> those who have something to offer to
> do just that. Or should I (from now on) first look
> at who needs information and then decide
> I should or should not share it because I don't like
> them for something they did at some point
> during the past 8 years?
>
> This List is at is best when we cooperate, when we
> help each other. Objective criticism is
> absolutely OK, ... defamations, backstabbing,
> humiliation, degrading people's ego is NOT!
>
> And, just in case, you folks out there, didn't know,
> the only meteorite that I
> have ever purchased from Matteo, was a smallish
> 2.3-gram NWA 900. What I want
> to tell you is that there is no personal
> (meteoritical) motif or motivation for
> me to write these lines ... !
>
> Bernd
>
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