[meteorite-list] re: Loud Blast, Red Streaks in Sky Over Ohio

From: Kopp's <kopp1998_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jun 21 17:09:50 2006
Message-ID: <000a01c69577$05eca700$6401a8c0_at_familyuse>

Hello,

This Great Fireball of 1966; was it an earth hit or miss? As a 15 YO, I was
listening to the radio in NJ and a NEWS bulletin announced that authorities
were reporting a fireball in the sky, just have to look up to see it. It
lasted a long time, at least 20 mins. as I recall.
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine_at_yahoo.com>
To: <marco.langbroek_at_wanadoo.nl>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] re: Loud Blast, Red Streaks in Sky Over Ohio


> This stream is headed back our way in 2022, possibly
> earlier depending on the effects of Jupiter's gravity
> on it.
>
>
> 1916 - Tau Herculids first observed?
> 1918, June 3-7 - 4 very slow "theta coronids" from a
> radiant of ra=230 deg, decl=+34 deg.
>
> 1930 - discovery 1930 May 31 perigeos
> then lost - Orbit changes under Jupiter gravity,
> realized 1973 by Russians
>
> 1952
> 1953 approach to within 0.9 au of Jupiter
> 1965 approach to within 0.25 au of Jupiter
> 1974 mid-March 1974 perihelion - perigeos not close
> 1979 March 19 perigeos - recovered
> 1985-1986 - lost
> 1990 April 17 perigeos - found
> 1995 October 17 perigeos - fragments
> 2001 January 27 periheleon
> 2006
>
> TAU HERCULID BOLIDES?
>
> Generally appear to have occured 1 month after
> perigeos pass, about 1 month before periheleon
>
> Very Hard to sort out - an Apollo may be coming in at
> the same time
> AF TAU HERCULID FIREBALL DATA HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM
> PUBLIC.
>
> 1916 - Tau Herculids first observed?
>
> ONLY THE YEARS 1930, 1941, 1946, 1952, 2022 AND 2049
> ARE EXPECTED TO SEE APPRECIABLE ACTIVITY
> Wiegart and Brown COMPUTER MODEL
>
> BUT
>
> 1930, 10 AUGUST = May 31 perigeos + 70 days - MISS AT
> RIO CURACA IN JUNGLE OF BRAZIL
> TYPE OF IMPACTOR: COMET strongly suspected
> "Three great meteors, falling in Brazil, fired and
> depopulated hundreds of miles of jungle".
> Thought to be Perseid
> http://www.homestead.com/wintersteel/files/Articles/More_Tunguskas.htm
> Leonid Kulik, 1931; N.Vasilyev & G.V. Andreev, 1989;
> Mark Bailey, D.J.Markham, S. Massai, J.E. Scriven,
> 1995;
> Duncan Steel, 1995
> http://www.meteor.co.nz/feb96_2.html
> http://www.anomalist.com/reports/tunguska.html - Mark
> Bailey, 1995; Patrick
> Huyghe, 1996
>
> 1935, 11 DECEMBER - MISS IN RUPUNUNI REGION OF BRITISH
> GUYANA
> http://www.homestead.com/wintersteel/files/Articles/More_Tunguskas.htm
> TYPE OF IMPACTOR: UNKNOWN, but one capable of creating
> airburst
> Serge A. Korff, 1935 Duncan Steel, 1995
>
> 1941 NININGER H.H. (1942):
> GREAT METEOR OF 1941 JUNE 28 (FIREBALL)
> Popular Astronomy 50, 43-47
>
> 1946 BUSCOMBE W. (1947):
> THE DETONATING FIREBALL OF 1946, JUNE 1-2
> J. Roy Astron. Soc. Canada 41, 281-289
>
> BUSCOMBE W. (1947):
> THE ALBERTA TWILIGHT METEOR OF 1946, OCTOBER 21
> (FIREBALL)
> JRASC 41, 347-354
>
> 1952 - nothing - Brown, Weigart calc
>
> 1966 NO - the great fireball of April 25, 1966,
> occurred 39 years ago almost to the day from
> last week's event. Seen by thousands from Washington,
> D.C., to eastern Canada, it was the most
> widely observed and photographed fireball of its time.
>
> 1968 October - dry, nothing much
>
> 1972 NO - wrong parent body
> 1972 - MISS IN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC(?)
> http://www.llnl.gov/planetary/pdfs/Threat/02-Nemtchinov.pdf
>
> http://www.llnl.gov/planetary/pdfs/Threat/02-Boslough.pdf
>
> 10 AUGUST, 1972 CE - MISS BY GREAT DAYLIGHT FIREBALL?
> TYPE OF IMPACTOR: COMET strongly suspected
> http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/Images/impact-teton.jpg
> http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/meteores-anomalies2.htm
> (I have not found on the internet as an mpeg file the
> very impressive movie of
> this near miss, and I do not know if anyone has
> calculated when this object will
> return to intercept the Earth.)
> 1972 BEST:
> http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/1972.html - KRONK
> 1000 metric tons - 1,000,000 metric tons
> 14 Kt estimated impact energy at 1000 metric tons
>
> 1974, mid-March perihelion
> 1974 March 03, 00:47 UT - Observer: John Deans.-
> Location: Capel St. Mary.
> Magnitude: unsure, but brighter than first magnitude.
> Track: from approx 50?? altitude in the north-west to
> approx 20?? altitude in the west-north-west.
> Colour: intense white colour.
> Note: this fireball appeared approximately three
> minutes after the reappearance of Saturn from a lunar
> occultation.
>
> 1979 March 19 perigeos -
> THE GREAT VALDOSTA, GEORGIA FIREBALL of April 12, 1979
>
> 1984, August
> CAPRICORNIDE VAN 29 JULI 1984?
>
> 1984 April 23, 20:27 UT?
> Report: Alan Smith, image recorded on photograph taken
> by all-sky camera (image below).
> Location: West Ipswich.
> Magnitude: -14.
> Path: the track of the fireball started approximately
> 10km east of the coast at Aldeburgh at an
> altitude of 125km and proceeded due north ending at an
> altitude of 83km some 10km east of the
> coast at Hemsby (approximate figures). Bob McNaught of
> the Hewitt Camera Group at the Royal
> Greenwich Observatory, Herstmonceux also recorded an
> image of the fireball, low down near the
> north-eastern horizon, and he estimated the track by
> combining data from the two observations.
> (A station in Holland also observed the fireball.)
> Note: the fireball was widely observed in the South of
> England.
>
> 1990 April 17 perigeos - A METEORITE that hit a house
> in the Netherlands probably came from an
> asteroid called Midas. Two months ago, the meteorite
> smashed through the roof of a house in the
> town of Enschede (This Week, 21 April).
>
> In the Netherlands, the meteorite is called the
> 'Glanerbrug' - rare type of chondrite
> - marco langbroek's recoverd orbit near to SW3
>
> 1995 October perigeoos pass - series of November
> fireballs - Japan, Spain, Colorado Springs
>
> 2001 'Flaming meteor' sparked 2-day hunt for plane
> crash - The Mirror (United Kingddom)
> February 15, 2001 The FIREBALL which sparked a major
> search operation for a crashed plane may
> have been a meteor, it was learned yesterday.
> Helicopters, troops, police and ambulance crews
> were mobilised after locals saw the flames and smoke
> streaking across the sky near the border.
> It was feared that a light aircraft had gone down. But
> a two-day search operation was called
> off last night as speculation grew it was an
> extra-terrestrial rock.
> also S. Africa 2/2/01
> Jan. 25/2001 fireball - Volunteers who run the
> rooftop observatory at the University of
> Alberta's physics building saw the meteor
>
> 2006
> QUEENSLAND 5/18/2006 - a fridge hurtling through the
> atmosphere at 57,000km/h
>
> http://www.northernstar.com.au/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3684873&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection=
> COMET DEBRIS TURNS ON A SPECTACULAR DISPLAY IN NIGHT
> SKY By Will Jackson
>
> EVER wanted to know what a fridge hurtling through the
> atmosphere at 57,000km/h looks like? Well, even if you
> haven't, watch the skies tonight and you might be able
> to see. The huge fireball that swooped across the sky
> about 6.20pm on Tuesday was actually a refrigerator
> sized hunk of comet, astronomer ANDRE CLAYDON said
> yesterday. The Earth is passing through
> debris left by Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann which
> has broken up into about 64 pieces, said the DIRECTOR
> OF OBSERVATION AT THE SPRINGBROOK OBSERVATORY near the
> Gold Coast.
>
> Some of these pieces were hitting the atmosphere and
> would continue to create a spectacular light show for
> another five days. However, they were unlikely to be
> quite as incredible as Tuesday night's meteor, which
> caused quite a stir across the region. A police
> spokeswoman said it was seen travelling west as far
> inland as Warwick in Queensland. She said a Warwick
> farmer alerted police about 6.30 pm of what he thought
> was a fireball from a plane crashing on his property.
> However, a search of the area found nothing.
> Police were then inundated by sightings of a 'green
> ball of light'.
>
> Andre said the meteor shower would have appeared much
> closer than it actually was. "As it comes in through
> our atmosphere we get a magnification effect, so it
> always looks a lot closer, but it is probably 60 to 70
> km inside our atmosphere," he said. "I had a number
> of phone calls specifically from the eastern part of
> Australia regarding a meteor shower that has come
> through and broken up into a few pieces."
>
> GRAND FORKS, N.D. 6-1-06 DULUTH-WINNEPEG
> http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/14760933.htm
> NORTHERN MINNESOTA: Fire in the sky By Steve Kuchera
> Duluth News Tribune
>
> A bright fireball that blazed over parts of the region
> on Friday night was a once-in-a-lifetime
> sighting.
>
> The mysterious light seen over the Northland on Friday
> night was an especially bright meteor
> seen in at least two states and Canada. "Anyone who
> saw it should count themselves as lucky
> They are probably not going to see another one like
> that in their lifetime," Scott Young said.
>
> YOUNG IS AN ASTRONOMER and manager of the planetarium
> and science gallery at the MANITOBA
> MUSEUM IN WINNIPEG. The museum is collecting reports
> of sightings of Friday's fireball,
> which traveled FROM SOUTH TO NORTH over the Northland
> about 11:35 P.M. FRIDAY. "We have a
> couple hundred e-mails, and my receptionist is taking
> phone calls as quick as they come in,"
> Young said. "I'm sure thousands of people saw it,
> because it went right over our cottage
> country area."
>
> Using information from witnesses and the mathematical
> process of triangulation, the museum
> hopes to determine the fireball's exact path. "That
> intersects the ground at some point, and
> that's where you go look for pieces," Young said. If
> the museum is able to triangulate the
> fireball's path, it will publish the results so
> residents can look for its remains. Young
> believes it likely that parts of the fireball survived
> their fiery plunge. "There was a sonic
> boom heard over the Lake of the Woods area, and that
> generally means that it has penetrated
> very low into the atmosphere," he said. "If it does
> that, then generally pieces can survive."
>
> According to NASA, as many as 4 billion meteors enter
> the Earth's atmosphere every day, many
> at speeds about 45 miles per second. Friction with the
> air causes them to glow. Most meteors
> are just specks of dust that burn up in a brilliant
> streak of light. Fireballs are different.
> They can weigh pounds -- large enough to illuminate a
> long path through the sky. Some fireballs
> called bolides, explode with a loud, thunderous sound.
>
> Friday's fireball broke into several pieces, witnesses
> said. "IT BROKE UP INTO TWO PIECES --
> ONE BIG BALL AND ONE LITTLE BALL," said Tim Leseman of
> Eveleth. Many people who saw Friday's
> fireball compared it to fireworks traveling
> horizontally rather than vertically. From any spot,
> it was visible for as long as 15 seconds.
> "Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been enough
> time for anyone to take a picture," Young said.
>
> The fireball was seen from places as far afield as
> Brandon, Manitoba (more than 100 miles west
> of Winnipeg), northwestern Lake of the Woods (where it
> appeared to pass directly overhead), Orr,
> Eveleth, Duluth, the Lake Mille Lacs area and Danbury,
> Wis. "Everyone generally thinks it was
> just over the trees or just over the hills, but when a
> meteor like this is actually visible,
> it's usually 20 to 40 kilometers (12 to 25 miles)
> above the Earth," Young said. "It's way, way
> up there."
>
> A meteor's chemical makeup and temperature determine
> what color its glow will be. Many
> witnesses described Friday's fireball as BEING GREEN
> OR BLUISH-GREEN IN COLOR (common for a
> stony meteor), turning to red near the end of its
> flight.Chris Magney of Duluth saw the
> fireball as he walked in the University of Minnesota
> Duluth area. "I just looked up, and right
> there in front of me I saw what looked like a
> firework," he said. "It was giving off some kind
> of trail. It wasn't an evenly spaced trail. It was
> kind of sparking off parts. It looked to be
> kind of bluish-green."
>
> The fireball was larger than past meteors he's seen.
> "This was probably one-eighth or one-tenth
> the size of the moon -- much larger than any
> background star," he said. "Just because of the
> light intensity it must have been pretty hot, whatever
> it was. It was moving as fast as the
> shooting stars I've seen."
>
> He watched as it appeared to follow an arc, vanishing
> over the northwestern horizon. Leseman
> was letting his dog out when he happened to look up to
> the west as the fireball blazed past. It
> was in sight for perhaps 10 seconds. "It was the size
> of the moon and it was moving slowly from
> south to north," he said. "It was very bright with a
> long tail, and it looked like it was
> rolling as if it was burning up.... I got a huge chill
> watching it."
>
> RECORD METEORITE HIT NORWAY
> Nina L??demel Monday, June 12
> WEDENESDAY, JUNE 7 - AT TAU HERCULID PEAK
>
> As Wednesday morning dawned, northern Norway was hit
> with an impact comparable to the atomic bomb used on
> Hiroshima.
>
> Peter Bruvold witnessed the meteorite streaking across
> the night sky.
>
> The map shows the meteorite's direction of fall (the
> arrow) and the possible impact area over
> Troms and Finnmark counties. At around 2:05 a.m. on
> Wednesday, residents of the northern part
> of Troms and the western areas of Finnmark could
> clearly see a ball of fire taking several
> seconds to travel across the sky.
>
> A few minutes later an impact could be heard and
> GEOPHYSICS AND SEISMOLOGY RESEARCH FOUNDATION
> NORSAR REGISTERED A POWERFUL SOUND AND SEISMIC
> DISTURBANCES AT 02:13.25 A.M. AT THEIR STATION
> IN KARASJOK.
>
> Farmer Peter Bruvold was out on his farm in Lyngseidet
> with a camera because his mare Virika
> was about to foal for the first time. "I saw a
> brilliant flash of light in the sky, and this
> became a light with a tail of smoke," Bruvold told
> Aftenposten. He photographed the object
> and then continued to tend to his animals when he
> heard an enormous crash. "I heard the bang
> seven minutes later. IT SOUNDED LIKE WHEN YOU SET OFF
> A SOLID CHARGE OF DYNAMITE A KILOMETER
> (0.62 MILES) AWAY," Bruvold said.
>
> Astronomers were excited by the news. "There were
> ground tremors, a house shook and a curtain
> was blown into the house," Norway's best known
> astronomer Knut J??rgen R??ed ?~degaard told
> Aftenposten.no. R??ed ?~degaard said the meteorite was
> visible to an area of several hundred
> kilometers despite the brightness of the midnight
> sunlit summer sky. The meteorite hit a
> mountainside in Reisadalen in North Troms. "This is
> simply exceptional. I cannot imagine that
> we have had such a powerful meteorite impact in Norway
> in modern times. If the meteorite was
> as large as it seems to have been, we can compare it
> to the Hiroshima bomb. Of course the
> meteorite is not radioactive, but in explosive force
> we may be able to compare it to the
> (atomic) bomb," R??ed ?~degaard said.
>
> The astronomer believes the meteorite was a giant rock
> and probably the largest known to have
> struck Norway. "The record was the Alta meteorite that
> landed in 1904. That one was 90 kilos
> (198 lbs) but we think the meteorite that landed
> Wednesday was considerably larger," R??ed
> ?~degaard said, and urged members of the public who
> saw the object or may have found remnants
> to contact the Institute of Astrophysics.
>
>
>
> --- Marco Langbroek <marco.langbroek_at_wanadoo.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > West
>> > to East. Looks like orbital debris, offhand. SW3
>> frags
>> > so far have travelled mainly from South to North.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, it did detonate with a blue
>> light,
>> > which is unusual for orbital junk. A residual
>> fuel
>> > explosion? North Korea's satellite?
>>
>> There is no decay candidate for that location and
>> time. The only decaying object
>> on June 19th probably did so several hours earlier,
>> and even if it would have
>> been still in orbit it would not be near this
>> location a this time, and at any
>> rate it was a very small piece of debris too small
>> for an event of his magnitude.
>>
>> So I vote for a meteor. No reason to specifically
>> connect it to SW3.
>>
>> - Marco
>>
>> -----
>> Dr Marco Langbroek
>> Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)
>>
>> e-mail: meteorites_at_dmsweb.org
>> private website
>> http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek
>> DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org
>> -----
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