[meteorite-list] Sale: LUNARMETEORITE.COM Domain name forsaleonEbay
From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com <MexicoDoug_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Jun 17 21:30:14 2006 Message-ID: <387.56feb56.31c6069f_at_aol.com> Bobadebt wrote: Bob you appear to disagree with my post. While I am sympathetic to your points and more so, to your morals, I shall defend my rationale that you publicly question which has nothing to do with moral views and I intend to keep it that way. <<There is nothing in eBays rules about listing any sellers current auctions at other venues such as forums and email lists.>> Probably right. Keep in mind that the member being defamed by harvesting information from the eBay site and publishing it in this public discussion forum has 100% positive feedback including HUNDREDS of distinct positives. How common is 100% feedback? This guy is doing something right. It seems his alledged "web-squatting" customers and suppliers are 100% satisfied. Please reflect on that. Now he choses to advertise here and you would like to ignore his eBay certified rating. I think he is probably just a nice guy trying to find a way to make a few bucks in this cruel world, and is probably excited about selling as the next guy. There are some real bargains on his omain names did you see? He can claim he is being creative and inventing names while being derided as a cybersquatter and more importantly worse terms I won't repeat. On the other hand neither you nor the original alarmed poster have mentioned ever doing business with this person yet you feel more qualified than all of those customers to libel the seller and drag the list through it like I am doing now in defending my point of view as a reflex. You confuse this issue by discussing the legality of posting current auctions. That is an incorrect description of this case. The link posted included the user's prior auctions, which requires entering an eBay userID and is not information available to the general public. Whether posting the past auctions is against eBay user rules or not is gray and would be interpreted probably on a case by case basis according to the EBay Community Values. It is prohibited for members to copy, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, or publicly display any content (except for Your Information) from the Site without the prior expressed written permission of eBay and the appropriate third party, as applicable; I think it is clear, but I'll still say it is a "probable violation" to be friendly. <<The really important question is how did this "Mike" person access this list? It obvious that he has no real interst in meteorites.>> NNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAA. (NO) You ASSUME this. He has purchased meteorites since at least five years ago from several respected dealers. How does this compare with your seniority as an aficionado? That fact is the only one I used to base make all of my supportive comments and the only really important question. <<I checked his completed auctions and he has sold other meteorite related web sites and he has even stolen a picture from a real meteorite dealer, check out aution number 6636007627>> Interesting. What kind of feedback did he get? This is an attractive assumption if we were in 16th century Spain. While it could prove true, we've seen several instances on the list of gossip and suspicions backfire on great list members during momentary careless lapses. Why don't you advise the only potentially injured party and let them take appropriate measures, by reporting it to the owner of the image, rather than spamming the rumor mill where you are jumping to defamatory conclusions? <<So some people should re-direct thier anger in the proper direction.>> I don't know if you are referring to others with this comment, but you replied to my post. Such is life, many individuals disagree and some take the disagreements pesonally by attaching phantom emotions and then we rumble. You say tomato and I say jitomate (xictomatl). Of course, I'm right:-), but I'm anything but angry. And I think others have the right to express a bit of outrage for being subjected to so much redundant profanity at once on the list as was so agressively posted. And then we get back to the point made by a sage poster on why so many valuable list members have left the current pirhana infested list. Saludos and my respects, Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: MexicoDoug_at_aol.com To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale: LUNARMETEORITE.COM Domain name forsaleonEbay Sterling and Rob voted: <<the seller had already posted to the List. In other words, D----- took the effort to check into the seller's practices and provide a warning with the interests of List members in mind, as a community service, and for their benefit.>> Just a personal thought and no more, Rob and Sterling: Imagine ... if "public service" and public servants you defend stopped, since such trolling for skeletons has its consequences as does the invasion of privacy, both for the poster and for the health and dynamics of the list. Discretion may not be encouraged for posting but life would be so nice if people would consider it more often. The only potential illegality I see is that the follow up poster may have used his eBay ID to hunt witches, found a few, judged them and executed sentence, and in the process most probably violated his eBay user agreement by publishing them in the public web archives. I must vote overwhelminglyn for Walt and John and thank them for their mature and attempt at discrete posts vs. the others I have seen for those who thought this issue was dead after the initial incursion into the seller's privacy. Sincerely yours, A concerned Sucker for meteorites Doug Received on Sat 17 Jun 2006 09:30:07 PM PDT |
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