[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Jul 14 00:07:08 2006
Message-ID: <93aaac890607121954v3aa22842nebed8310f4d17326_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hello Greg, All,

These mementos were used a means of fundraising. You don't seem to realize
that such a new institution needs to attain a certain amount of endowment
money if it is *ever* to succeed, and there were initially very few
donations - so the Fukang displays were conceived to make people more
enthusiastic about donating. For donations of certain amounts, a certain
size/shape of "trophy" would be given to the person donating.

Though, trophy's hardly the word for such things. I'd call it more of a
token of gratitude, if anything.

But a good portion of you fail to see the whole rationale of the program.
It's not meant to keep any material from collectors, and is, in fact, aiming
to make classification a much faster process, so that instead of waiting for
months to see the results of a find, dealers will have a turnaround measured
in weeks, if not days.

Also, the supposition that the program will be soaking up all new material
is entirely false. Although it may purchase a portion of new meteorites
that are scientifically interesting, the extra amount given to/bought by
them (after the initial 20g requirement is fulfilled) would not simply be up
to the University. The dealers would still have control regarding the
amount to be given or sold to the institution, as they would still own the
meteorite being classified.

If they chose not to sell or donate to the institution, they could do so,
and still have their material classified within the week. They would just
know that, instead of sitting on material for months, waiting to get rid of
it, tat they could get rid of a portion immediately, and for a fair price.


I fail to see how anyone loses.
Dealers move material more quickly, collectors get it sooner, and science
gets a portion that they'll be able to work with and run more tests
on...possibly increasing the value of the meteorite as well.
A little less hits the market, but it just means that dealers won't have to
sit on old merchandise for longer.

As for how I know this....
I've spoken with Marvin a number of times about the project, and am planning
on donating a few weeks of my summer to it - if you have money, give it ;)

Regards,
Jason


On 7/12/06, Greg Hupe <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> If there was not an immediate and clear business plan to classify and/or
> examine suspect meteorites, as we were led to believe in Tucson, why did
> they start selling "Trophies" to help their 'business' efforts in order to
> do so in a timely manner? Also, I believe we were told the 'Center' would
> purchase the entire meteorite after/during the classification process to
> protect said 'meteorite' (if it were one).
>
> Inquiring minds...
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael L Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>
> To: "Michael Blood" <mlblood_at_cox.net>; "BIG Collector: MARK BOSTICK"
> <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>; "Dean Bessey" <deanbessey@yahoo.com>;
> "Meteorite
> List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE CLASSIFICATION SERVICE
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > OK, I contacted the Southwest Meteorite Center at U of A.
> > Dr. Lauretta was on vacation, but I was able to get ahold of
> > Marvin. Marvin informed me they are far from ready to be able
> > to do analysis in a timely manor and, while that is a definite
> > future goal, until other aspects of the Center are developed
> > there will not be any reasonable classification system set up.
> > So, while this is a goal for the center, it is not now available
> > to the meteoritic community - and when it will be available is
> > quite unclear due to uncertainty of when funding will become
> > available.
> > The core goal of the center will be to build a permanent
> repository
> > and display of meteorites that represent all typologies and preserve
> > them for all time. When funding is in place, the analysis system will
> > definitely be a priority and a core component of the center.
> > Best wishes, Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > on 7/12/06 12:09 PM, Michael L Blood at mlblood_at_cox.net wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >> I am just wondering how you can "disagree" with a statement
> >> that something MAY be available to people and the suggestion that
> >> they check it out for themselves?
> >> It doesn't sound like you have called Dr. Lauretta at the number
> >> I posted.
> >> Jeez, Mark - it seems like you must have something going on other
> >> than what is on the surface of this information.
> >> I'll give Dr. Lauretta a call myself and let y'all know what he
> has
> >> to say.
> >> Best wishes, Michael
> >>
> >> on 7/12/06 11:39 AM, MARK BOSTICK at thebigcollector_at_msn.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> In Tucson Killgore noted "classified opportunities" during his
> talk. I
> >>> spoke with Killgore after the talk and was told a person would
> purchase
> >>> a
> >>> subscription that would allow them so many a year. The price had not
> >>> been
> >>> established, and if you signed the book in his room you were suppose
> to
> >>> be
> >>> notified when such was set up. I don't know about anyone else but I
> >>> have
> >>> not been notified.
> >>>
> >>> So, I disagree with you Michael in suggesting Martin's (possible?)
> >>> services
> >>> which we really know nothing about, over Dean's which is cheaper then
> >>> NAU's
> >>> service (which is now closed to the public).
> >>>
> >>> Clear Skies,
> >>> Mark Bostick
> >>> www.meteoritearticles.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> The greater a person's sense of guilt, the greater his or her need to
> >> cast
> >> blame on others.
> >> Anon.
> >> --
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> >> "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
> >> "More and more of our imports come from overseas."
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> >> George W. Bush
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Anon.
> > --
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> > "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
> > "More and more of our imports come from overseas."
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> >
> >
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