[meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Jan 7 13:16:27 2006
Message-ID: <20060107181624.16981.qmail_at_web26208.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

For me the unique method is I buy a slice of Fukang
and I see, with the humidity here, if born rusty or
not....for the moment only Esquel, Imilac, Seymchan,
Glorieta - but not slice - and Marjalathi have pass
the test...Brenham destroyed, brahin the same, Admire
a ruin, Ahumada the same, krasnojarsk few traces

Matteo

--- meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net ha scritto:

> Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so
> simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is
> crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have
> never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta.
>
> This comes from the fact that people have been
> touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a
> beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet
> the fact that I know some people who bought pieces
> last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now
> when we try to discuss that fact, several people
> have been emailing and calling me to complain that I
> should not say that if I dont have any. I find that
> terrible, it seems that people want to sell it
> knowing full well that the meteorite they are
> charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious
> problem ruster.
> Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may
> rust, this the very low price for that danger built
> into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac
> or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem
> meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the
> customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will
> sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it
> could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers
> are trying to avoid that fact with the
> super-expensive Fukang.
> This is my point.
> Mike
> -------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> From: Matt Morgan <mmorgan_at_mhmeteorites.com>
> > Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying
> ANY meteorite. It aint
> > like buying coins.
> > All I was trying to get at is you can't make
> blanket statements that
> > this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It
> depends on where the piece
> > came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g
> on Imilac to have it
> > rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared
> correctly.
> > Matt
> >
> > meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > >Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money
> and you takes your chances"?
> > Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang,
> so paying $1 or $2 gram and
> > losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on
> Fukang and not having a clue
> > where your piece came from. How is a buyer going
> to know if it came from the
> > center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from
> the crust/rust surface? They
> > wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts
> into nothing, worth nothing.
> > >Mike
> > > -------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> > >From: Matt Morgan <mmorgan_at_mhmeteorites.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >>Or on the other hand, it can be completely
> stable. I have had 4 slices
> > >>now for a few months that show no signs of
> rusting whatsoever. These
> > >>were taken from an external chunk on the top of
> the mass. So just like
> > >>Brenham, it depends where the piece came from
> and how it was finished.
> > >>
> > >>I have an Imilac slice right now that was
> rusting until I refinished it
> > >>and stabilized it (purchased from a very well
> known dealer I may add).
> > >>So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't
> be in our oxidizing
> > >>environment.
> > >>
> > >>Matt Morgan
> > >>
> > >>meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable
> meteorite not worth buying and
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it
> melting into a pile of nearly
> > >>worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel,
> Seymchan, or Imilac any day,
> > >>with no risk involved.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Mike Farmer
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> > >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork"
> <AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Hello Mike
> > >>>> Fukang has beautiful crystals of
> olivine and it looked very nice a
> > >>>>few months ago .
> > >>>>Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal .
> Maybe the interior is better but
> > >>>>in Minnesota .
> > >>>>Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year
> here .
> > >>>>If I were to get a piece again I would keep it
> in a vacum sealed container
> > >>>>.
> > >>>> May your day do well Ken Regelman
> > >>>>
> > >>>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>From: <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> > >>>>To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork"
> <AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>;
> > >>>><Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > >>>>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > >>>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM
> > >>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang
> specimen is very nice, and then you
> > >>>>>say you are watching it rust everywhere.
> Those two statements are not
> > >>>>>compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a
> rusting piece of crap.
> > >>>>>Meteorites that rust on me are never
> considered nice.
> > >>>>>Mike Farmer
> > >>>>>-------------- Original message
> ----------------------
> > >>>>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork"
> > >>>>><AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen
> as I have said .
> > >>>>>>I have had a specimen for some time and I
> live in Minnesota .
> > >>>>>>One of the worst climates for iron
> meteorites and I
> > >>>>>>have been watching my specimen Rust for the
> last 3 months.
> > >>>>>>It was not prepared in any way just hacked
> off by the original
> > >>>>>>owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a
> thought when purchasing
> > >>>>>>specimens .
> > >>>>>>Ken Regelman
> > >>>>>>Astronomical Research Network
> > >>>>>>http://www.meteorites4sale.net/
> >
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> > >>--
> > >><><><><><>
> > >>Matt Morgan
>
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