[meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite

From: meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Jan 7 12:37:56 2006
Message-ID: <010720061737.1265.43BFFC700002F49F000004F122007358349D0A9B029A080A9B079D010A9B0A03_at_comcast.net>

Yes Matt, I understand, but you cant just make it so simple as well. We all know that some Brahin is crap, some is superb, same with Brenham. Yet I have never seen Esquel rust, nor Seymchan, nor Glorietta.
This comes from the fact that people have been touting how nice Fukang is (and I agree, it is a beautiful meteorite with superb large crystals) yet the fact that I know some people who bought pieces last year from Kilgore, that it is all rusting. Now when we try to discuss that fact, several people have been emailing and calling me to complain that I should not say that if I dont have any. I find that terrible, it seems that people want to sell it knowing full well that the meteorite they are charging $20 or $25 gram for might be a serious problem ruster.
Now, people who sell Brahin or Brenham know it may rust, this the very low price for that danger built into the cheap price. But Fukang commands an Imilac or Esquel piece, neither of which are problem meteorites. I find that to be a risk to the customers/collectors that I am here to serve. I will sell you a Brahin, but you know beforehand that it could rust to nothing. It seems that most dealers are trying to avoid that fact with the super-expensive Fukang.
This is my point.
Mike
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Matt Morgan <mmorgan_at_mhmeteorites.com>
> Agreed Mike, you do take your chances on buying ANY meteorite. It aint
> like buying coins.
> All I was trying to get at is you can't make blanket statements that
> this one doesn't rust, but that one does. It depends on where the piece
> came from and the preparation. I've spent 20-25/g on Imilac to have it
> rust in 6 mos because it wasn't prepared correctly.
> Matt
>
> meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:
>
> >Then like Brenham or Brahin, "you pays your money and you takes your chances"?
> Brenham and Brahin cost like 90% less than Fukang, so paying $1 or $2 gram and
> losing it is not like spending $20 or $25 gram on Fukang and not having a clue
> where your piece came from. How is a buyer going to know if it came from the
> center or the upper left quarter 4 centimers from the crust/rust surface? They
> wont know, until either it stays fine or rusts into nothing, worth nothing.
> >Mike
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: Matt Morgan <mmorgan_at_mhmeteorites.com>
> >
> >
> >>Or on the other hand, it can be completely stable. I have had 4 slices
> >>now for a few months that show no signs of rusting whatsoever. These
> >>were taken from an external chunk on the top of the mass. So just like
> >>Brenham, it depends where the piece came from and how it was finished.
> >>
> >>I have an Imilac slice right now that was rusting until I refinished it
> >>and stabilized it (purchased from a very well known dealer I may add).
> >>So no pallasites are free of rusting; they can't be in our oxidizing
> >>environment.
> >>
> >>Matt Morgan
> >>
> >>meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>That tells me that it is a dangerous, unstable meteorite not worth buying and
> >>>
> >>>
> >>spending thousands of $$$ to take the risk of it melting into a pile of nearly
> >>worthless olivine crystals. I will take Esquel, Seymchan, or Imilac any day,
> >>with no risk involved.
> >>
> >>
> >>>Mike Farmer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello Mike
> >>>> Fukang has beautiful crystals of olivine and it looked very nice a
> >>>>few months ago .
> >>>>Now it has rusted so I see no fresh metal . Maybe the interior is better but
> >>>>in Minnesota .
> >>>>Nantan falls to dust in 6 months to a year here .
> >>>>If I were to get a piece again I would keep it in a vacum sealed container
> >>>>.
> >>>> May your day do well Ken Regelman
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> >>>>To: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork" <AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>;
> >>>><Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>>>Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>>>Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 3:14 AM
> >>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fukang meteorite
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Please clarify Ken, you say the Fukang specimen is very nice, and then you
> >>>>>say you are watching it rust everywhere. Those two statements are not
> >>>>>compatible. Either it is nice, or it is a rusting piece of crap.
> >>>>>Meteorites that rust on me are never considered nice.
> >>>>>Mike Farmer
> >>>>>-------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>>>From: "AstronomicalResearchNetwork"
> >>>>><AstronomicalResearchNetwork_at_comcast.net>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>The Fukang meteorite is a wonderful specimen as I have said .
> >>>>>>I have had a specimen for some time and I live in Minnesota .
> >>>>>>One of the worst climates for iron meteorites and I
> >>>>>>have been watching my specimen Rust for the last 3 months.
> >>>>>>It was not prepared in any way just hacked off by the original
> >>>>>>owner of the Fukang meteorite . Just a thought when purchasing
> >>>>>>specimens .
> >>>>>>Ken Regelman
> >>>>>>Astronomical Research Network
> >>>>>>http://www.meteorites4sale.net/
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