[meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

From: stan . <laser_maniac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Feb 14 22:32:09 2006
Message-ID: <BAY101-F22E4F7BAD8A8CED6260DD5F0FA0_at_phx.gbl>

Adam,
Actually I was reffering to the roughly 7.5 kg being split between Nelson
and myself. from the NAU website:

"A 386 g broken stone with weathered fusion crust (part of a larger ~7.5 kg
mass found in 2003) was purchased in Erfoud, Morocco in 2004 for N. Oakes,
Oakes)"

So I guess there is also a 386g piece above and beyond the numbered pairings
and the main mass.

The point of all this TKW stuff? Well i guess there is ALOT more of this
material than your TKW numebrs would refelct, but my mass isnt for sale, and
unless someone wants to pony up the cost of a pretty darn fine new car
Nelson's mass isnt for sale either. I dont know if Birdsell has any for
sale, but despite the realistic TKW numbers the material sdeems to be of
pretty limited distribution.


>From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update
>Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:25:05 -0800
>
>Dear John and List,
>
>I applaud trying to nail down the TKW but as Stan stated NWA 2656 was
>divided among two owners. I was not supplied by either one of them. You
>claim NWA 2714 with a reported TKW of 100 grams according to NAU's
>documents
>was part of this same mass. Stan claims it was divided between Nelson Oaks
>and himself with a claimed weight 386 grams. Now you claim the weight of
>NWA
>2714 is 1,666 grams on your recently updated web-site. The cached website
>results for your site from google make no mention of the weight. It was
>brought in to question whether my stone was a fragment of this one and I
>responded it was not. I was then dragged through the ringer on TKWs which
>make absolutely no sense since parts of the same stone have been claimed
>under different numbers. Since I had to explain my position, maybe you can
>explain the website discrepancy and the 100 gram recorded weight on NAU's
>site below. I am sure everybody would like to know about NWA 2714.
>
>http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/PrimitiveAchondrite.html
>
>I was sincere in my statements regarding the nature of tracking TKWs on
>pairings. As you can see, this is a mess!
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>
>------------------------------------
>Adam Hupe
>The Hupe Collection
>Team LunarRock
>IMCA 2185
>raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Birdsell" <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
>To: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>;
><Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:39 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update
>
>
> > Hi Stan and thanks for your email. Ok, I think that
> > this Acapulcoite TKW thing really needs to get nailed
> > down before the next Met Bulletin comes out. Can
> > everyone that has a significant amount of this
> > material write us either on or off list so that we can
> > add up all of the pieces and get the correct TKW.
> > Stan, am I correct in assuming that between you and
> > Nelson, you had 7500 grams of NWA 2656? We had 1666
> > grams of NWA 2714, so that brings the TKW weight up to
> > at least 9166 grams, plus Adam's 77 grams = 9243
> > grams...Any more out there?
> >
> >
> > -John
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > for those that might be curious the mass of 2656 was
> > > broken into 'pieces' -
> > > as in 2 pieces. Nelson Oaks has one and I have the
> > > other, with a few slices
> > > being sold off here and there. If Adam's piece is
> > > paired then the bueaty of
> > > this stuff really cant be understated - it's
> > > gorgeous material. IF anyone
> > > wants a piece and 4 or 5 grams isnt enough then
> > > wirte Nelson, I belive his
> > > piece is up for grabs - or at least it was listed in
> > > Lang's auction at
> > > tucson...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: John Birdsell <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989
> > > Acapulcoite
> > > >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:21:11 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > >Hi Bernd...Yes, if it is paired to our new
> > > Acapulcoite
> > > >NWA 2714 and NWA 2656, then the provisional
> > > write-up
> > > >in MB90 states that the TKW is accounted for by a
> > > >single ~ 7.5 kilogram stone which was apparently
> > > >broken into pieces and sold.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- bernd.pauli_at_paulinet.de wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello All !
> > > > >
> > > > > I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely
> > > metal-
> > > > > and troilite-rich slice
> > > > > of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you
> > > > > care to take a look ;-)
> > > > > that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and
> > > you'll
> > > > > know what I mean!
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > "...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989.
> > > This
> > > > > weight does
> > > > > not reflect any pairings since I do not have
> > > > > accurate figures."
> > > > >
> > > > > It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I
> > > own
> > > > > a beautiful slice
> > > > > weighing 0.29 grams.
> > > > >
> > > > > Adam also writes: "... the lowest price you will
> > > > > find on EBay."
> > > > >
> > > > > And right he is! I paid $290 for my little,
> > > > > beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not
> > > > > regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I
> > > would
> > > > > have had to pay for more than
> > > > > 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram
> > > > > ACAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > The specimen that comes closest to the one I
> > > > > purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram
> > > > > part slice - also very metal-rich and almost
> > > like my
> > > > > little NWA 2656 with all its
> > > > > delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show
> > > those
> > > > > slender troilite inclusions but
> > > > > this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd
> > > buy
> > > > > both of them if I could afford it!
> > > > >
> > > > > What makes acapulcoites, and especially this
> > > one, so
> > > > > interesting is their achondritic,
> > > > > granular texture and, at the same time, they
> > > have an
> > > > > ordinary chondrite mineralogy.
> > > > > That's why you find both abundant metal (similar
> > > to
> > > > > H chondrites!) and sulfide in them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another interesting feature is the rare
> > > occurrence
> > > > > of relict chondrules, and, as they do
> > > > > not plot too far away from both angrites,
> > > > > brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites
> > > > > on the other, you will also find grain
> > > boundaries
> > > > > meeting in triple junctions (120°).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Acapucoitic wishes,
> > > > > and Good Night,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bernd
> > > > >
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