[meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Feb 14 22:25:24 2006
Message-ID: <005f01c631df$9349e780$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

Dear John and List,

I applaud trying to nail down the TKW but as Stan stated NWA 2656 was
divided among two owners. I was not supplied by either one of them. You
claim NWA 2714 with a reported TKW of 100 grams according to NAU's documents
was part of this same mass. Stan claims it was divided between Nelson Oaks
and himself with a claimed weight 386 grams. Now you claim the weight of NWA
2714 is 1,666 grams on your recently updated web-site. The cached website
results for your site from google make no mention of the weight. It was
brought in to question whether my stone was a fragment of this one and I
responded it was not. I was then dragged through the ringer on TKWs which
make absolutely no sense since parts of the same stone have been claimed
under different numbers. Since I had to explain my position, maybe you can
explain the website discrepancy and the 100 gram recorded weight on NAU's
site below. I am sure everybody would like to know about NWA 2714.

http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/PrimitiveAchondrite.html

I was sincere in my statements regarding the nature of tracking TKWs on
pairings. As you can see, this is a mess!

Kind Regards,


------------------------------------
Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
raremeteorites_at_comcast.net



----- Original Message -----
From: "John Birdsell" <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
To: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>;
<Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Acapulcoite TKW Update


> Hi Stan and thanks for your email. Ok, I think that
> this Acapulcoite TKW thing really needs to get nailed
> down before the next Met Bulletin comes out. Can
> everyone that has a significant amount of this
> material write us either on or off list so that we can
> add up all of the pieces and get the correct TKW.
> Stan, am I correct in assuming that between you and
> Nelson, you had 7500 grams of NWA 2656? We had 1666
> grams of NWA 2714, so that brings the TKW weight up to
> at least 9166 grams, plus Adam's 77 grams = 9243
> grams...Any more out there?
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> --- "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > for those that might be curious the mass of 2656 was
> > broken into 'pieces' -
> > as in 2 pieces. Nelson Oaks has one and I have the
> > other, with a few slices
> > being sold off here and there. If Adam's piece is
> > paired then the bueaty of
> > this stuff really cant be understated - it's
> > gorgeous material. IF anyone
> > wants a piece and 4 or 5 grams isnt enough then
> > wirte Nelson, I belive his
> > piece is up for grabs - or at least it was listed in
> > Lang's auction at
> > tucson...
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: John Birdsell <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
> > >To: Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989
> > Acapulcoite
> > >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 15:21:11 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Hi Bernd...Yes, if it is paired to our new
> > Acapulcoite
> > >NWA 2714 and NWA 2656, then the provisional
> > write-up
> > >in MB90 states that the TKW is accounted for by a
> > >single ~ 7.5 kilogram stone which was apparently
> > >broken into pieces and sold.
> > >
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >-John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- bernd.pauli_at_paulinet.de wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello All !
> > > >
> > > > I've just purchased my 3.7-gram, extremely
> > metal-
> > > > and troilite-rich slice
> > > > of NWA 2989 (Item #6605571076 - just in case you
> > > > care to take a look ;-)
> > > > that Adam is offering on EBay. Look at it and
> > you'll
> > > > know what I mean!
> > > >
> > > > Adam writes:
> > > >
> > > > "...TKW of 77 grams is recorded for NWA 2989.
> > This
> > > > weight does
> > > > not reflect any pairings since I do not have
> > > > accurate figures."
> > > >
> > > > It is probably paired with NWA 2656, of which I
> > own
> > > > a beautiful slice
> > > > weighing 0.29 grams.
> > > >
> > > > Adam also writes: "... the lowest price you will
> > > > find on EBay."
> > > >
> > > > And right he is! I paid $290 for my little,
> > > > beautiful NWA 2656 (which I do not
> > > > regret!). Go figure and do the maths what I
> > would
> > > > have had to pay for more than
> > > > 10 times the weight (3.7 grams) of my 0.29-gram
> > > > ACAP.
> > > >
> > > > The specimen that comes closest to the one I
> > > > purchased seems to be the 2.55-gram
> > > > part slice - also very metal-rich and almost
> > like my
> > > > little NWA 2656 with all its
> > > > delicate veins and veinlets. It doesn't show
> > those
> > > > slender troilite inclusions but
> > > > this part slice would be my choice no. 2. I'd
> > buy
> > > > both of them if I could afford it!
> > > >
> > > > What makes acapulcoites, and especially this
> > one, so
> > > > interesting is their achondritic,
> > > > granular texture and, at the same time, they
> > have an
> > > > ordinary chondrite mineralogy.
> > > > That's why you find both abundant metal (similar
> > to
> > > > H chondrites!) and sulfide in them.
> > > >
> > > > Another interesting feature is the rare
> > occurrence
> > > > of relict chondrules, and, as they do
> > > > not plot too far away from both angrites,
> > > > brachinites on the one hand, and from ureilites
> > > > on the other, you will also find grain
> > boundaries
> > > > meeting in triple junctions (120?).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Acapucoitic wishes,
> > > > and Good Night,
> > > >
> > > > Bernd
> > > >
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