[meteorite-list] Pluto's Fate to be Decided by 'Scientific andSimp

From: E.P. Grondine <epgrondine_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Aug 16 00:09:04 2006
Message-ID: <20060816035217.83695.qmail_at_web36911.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Larry, all -

Yeah, there could be massive bodies out there, but
there aren't. That's what Myles' study shows.

What's sending the comets our way are our solar
system's passings through the plane of our galaxy, the
Milky Way. That's exactly what is shown in the
extinction record, and it confirms the gravitational
model work done by both British and Italian teams.

When will NASA get over the not invented here syndrome
and stop wasting our money looking for Nemesis? Why
don't we spend it on sending some probes out to the
Kuiper belt and Oort cloud, where it might do some
good? Anybody here care to blue sky some designs?

good hunting,
Ed

--- Larry Lebofsky <lebofsky_at_lpl.arizona.edu> wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Depending on albedo, there could easily be
> Earth-sized bodies beyond the
> Kuiper Belt (do not remember the exact numbers off
> the top of my head but
> could find out). As far as perturbations are
> concerned, we are likely to be
> getting comets from the Oort cloud (that is how it
> was predicted) and these
> could knocked out of the cloud by passing stars the
> cloud goes out to nearly
> 1/2 an AU, so there are stars that do get faily
> close to that distance.
>
> Larry
>
> Quoting "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine_at_yahoo.com>:
>
> > Hi Ron -
> >
> > When do we get back the tens of millions of
> dollars
> > spent looking for Nemesis? The NEO search teams
> could
> > really use it. There's those 64 fragments of SW3
> > coming back around in 2022. Additionally there's
> a
> > pack of nuts all gearing up to holler about 2012,
> very
> > close to SW3's 2011 return.
> >
> > If I can get the money back, can I keep a
> percentage?
> >
> > good hunting,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Ron Baalke <baalke_at_zagami.jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Bigger than Pluto? At greater AUs'out?
> > > >
> > > > This could explain the comets that come out of
> the
> > > blue appear once and
> > > > never return.
> > > >
> > > > Did not astronomers think that it was
> interstellar
> > > perturbations that
> > > > "jarred" the K-belt?
> > > >
> > > > A large "planet(s)" out there would have much
> more
> > > effect than stars
> > > > light years away.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We would have seen evidence of a large planet by
> > > now, which we've haven't.
> > > Analysis by Myles Standish at JPL indicates that
> a
> > > large planet out
> > > beyond Neptune does not exist. Some astronomers
> > > have been searching
> > > for a Planet X based on what appeared to be
> > > irregularities
> > > in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune. However,
> when
> > > the extremely accurate
> > > measurements of the mass of Neptune made by the
> > > Voyager 2 flyby in 1989
> > > are inserted in the equations, these
> irregularities
> > > vanish. Prior to the
> > > Voyager 2 flyby, the mass number used for
> Neptune
> > > was off by five-tenths
> > > of 1 percent. When the new value for Neptune's
> > > mass is factored into the
> > > equations, the orbits of the outer planets are
> shown
> > > to be moving as exp
> > > ected, going all the way back to the early
> 1800's.
> > > The results of Standish's
> > > analysis are published in the May 1993 issue of
> The
> > > Astronomical Journal
> > >
> > > Ron Baalke
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