[meteorite-list] Kansas Legal Debate: Creation, Evolution and Intelligent Design

From: Marc Fries <m.fries_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri May 13 13:27:04 2005
Message-ID: <1200.10.17.14.1.1116005120.squirrel_at_webmail.ciw.edu>

Howdy

   There is drastic, deep and fundamental conflict between evolution and
intelligent design. To be brief, intelligent design requires the
magical intervention of a deity. That's exactly what it is - magic.
It has no place in a science class.
   Evolution will probably never be proven. In order to be proven and
become a Law, it must be shown that it is the fundamental mechanism at
work in all instances of the origin of life. That is a titanic task
that will probably never be satisfactorily performed. That's okay,
actually - gravitation is still the "theory of gravity", not the Law of
Gravity. ...and yet none of us go floating off into the sky.
   Here's a concept that never seems to make it into discussion -
arrogance. Evolution contains many portions that we do not fully
understand, such as whether proteins or DNA-like informational polymers
were the first to arrive. This is a chicken-or-egg argument that we
simply don't know enough about right now to answer. This simple
comment - that we don't know - is a statement of humility. Intelligent
design promoters claim to KNOW how life arose - this is a statement of
monumental arrogance. Now, from a religious point of view, are we not
supposed to be humble in the face of god's creation? No matter what
faith one chooses to follow, I find this to be an interesting argument
because in this light evolution is actually the more spiritually
enlightened choice.

   Something to think about.

Cheers,
MDF

p.s. And the Scopes Monkey Trial occurred in Tennessee, not Kansas.


> Dear Dave and List,
> I was, just now, watching Lou Dobbs on CNN and this
> was news to me. Dave, I don`t understand what
> D-baiting is. Historically Kansas was the center of
> the Scopes-Monkey Trial (Creationism vs. Evolution).
> An earlier thread on this list was about Transpermia
> (Panspermia).
> I am looking for intelligent debate on what should
> be taught in public schools. I was taught as a
> Christian; but as a scientist I accept Evolution, and
> I guess Intelligent Design (I personally see some
> weaknesses in Darwinian Evolution). Evolution lacks
> total evidence (proof) and explanation in its argument
> and yet is taught as scientific fact. I am looking
> for debate Not baiting as you suggest. Personally I
> do not see any conflict between the three paradigms.
> Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
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