[meteorite-list] Re: Introduction of European dealers N°1 was Michael's meteorite market trends

From: Martin Altmann <Altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Jun 9 12:19:54 2005
Message-ID: <000c01c56d10$1fe78ca0$80429a54_at_9y6y40j>

Interesting point Mark,

from my experiences there is besides the problem to gain some publicity in
USA at the new collectors for the European dealers or dealer-collectors,
the fact that some US-collectors tend to by somewhat shy in contacting or
ordering from European offerors, perhaps they think it's complicate:
problems because of the languague barriers, the duration of shipping, the
mode of payments and are not sure, whether they couls return the specimen,
if they are not satisfied?
But this apprehensions are unjustified. All European sellers know some
sufficient English, most of them do have Paypal, all of them accept checks
too, shipment takes in general 5-7days and of course all will take back the
specimen, if the collector isn't happy with it.

Hey, let's just introduce some European sellers for the newbies!
My part is Germany: Here some reliable meteorite dealers and collectors
from Germany (in alphabetically order):


Svend Buhl

www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/
Still quite new, he aims for the highest standard with success. Turns his
attention to the historic aspects of meteorites,
see also the excellent reports on his homepage. Is marketing his own finds
soon and is known for his high quality reprints of antiquarian pictures of
meteorite specimens and falls. Sparsely in US- and german ebay.


Norbert Classen

http://www.meteoris.de (under construction)
Collector, IMCA Europe chief, but best to be described as the Lunatic.
Planetary specialist, owns the most complete lunar and martian collection.
Will present soon his self hunted Oman finds on a website.


Thomas Dehner

http://www.tektit.com/
www.moldavit.de
Huge assortment of impactites and tektites, to be found on fairs and in
German ebay.


The Egers

www.space-rocks-eger.de
Nomads, travelling on each and every fair since many years- variety of
meteorite jewellery and classical meteorites.
No ebay.


Olaf Gabel

www.gabelbart.de
Collector & my personal Chief Impactor. Always on the hunt for impact
materials from all craters of the world. Excellent prices,
email for his assortment list.
Frequently on German ebay.


Alexander Gehler

a.gehler_at_web.de
A collector, found on meteorite shows. Don't loose sight of him, because of
his quiet and modest air - you often would miss rarest localities at great
prices.
Email for assortment lists


Carsten Giessler&Cornelia Poloczek

http://www.gi-po.de
New on stage, they appeal for best service - now in the beginning they have
to do still a lot of ebay, more in Germany than in USA. Are on a promising
way. Very nice persons.


Siggi Haberer

http://www.haberer-meteorite.de/english/Home.htm
One of the most successful lunaite hunters. Sells his treasures from Oman,
rare and common.
As far as I konw, the only dealer, who got export export permissions from
Oman.


Dieter Heinlein

http://www.meteorites.de
Veteran collector. Coordinator of the European Fireball Network. Who does
not know him!
Offers a small assortment of common and rare names. The Neuschwanstein
specialist!
Crafted high quality casts of all 3 stones, wrote several publications about
and original material only available through him!


Peter Jaeger

http://www.meteoritehunter.de
Collector with minute assortment of micromounts. Inactive since a time, I
fear due reason of his health.
Before he often had auctions running in German ebay.


Peter Kuemmel

starhunter.pk_at_t-online.de
Since many years on each important show, his speciality: German meteorites.
No homapage, no ebay, no woman, no cry.


Achim&Moritz Karl, - Sergej Vassiliev:

http://sv-meteorites.jodoshared.com/default.asp
Specialists for Mars/Moon and incredible hard to get historical falls and
finds.
Early desert hunters, they work together with Sergey Vassiliev from Praha,
who is the heck of a trader and brings out the most rare falls from the
museums.
With their special cutting device the produce the best surfacs to weight
ratios on the market.
Active frequently on US-ebay


Gregor Pacer

Email: pacermet_at_t-online.de
Found on many fairs. German-Polish veteran. Classics, classics, falls,
classics.
Have to mention him hear, because he as often bad luck with his auction on
German ebay,
hey Gregor, try it on US-ebay!!


Peter Pittmann

Email: ppfoss_at_aol.com
A variety of classical and rare names, found on fairs.
Often good prices. No ebay.


Stefan Ralew

URL: http://www.sr-meteorites.de
Well, who doesn't know him yet, has missed a lot.
Always the most exotic and amazing stones from Morocco he brings,
cares for proper classification and numbering - highest standard.
And always he prices it so, that you have no problems to find similar
material at triple prices at other dealers.
List members should know him from his specials, posted to the list.
Does not often use ebay.


Hanno Strufe

http://www.strufe.net/English/english.htm
Passionate NWA-collector. Specialized in micromounts of desert meteorites as
well as rare&classic material.
Often in German ebay.

and a certain
Martin Altmann......


At all those you will served at a high standard.
If I forgot someone - help me to complete the list.

And now Christian, Peter, Marcin, Francesco, Mrs.Pel?, Jeff, John - tell us
about the offerors in Austria, Switzerland, Poland, Italy, France,
Australia, GB!!!!

Buckleboo!
Martin



----- Original Message -----
From: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>
To: <dfreeman_at_fascination.com>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Michael's meteorite market trends


> Hello Dave, Michael and list,
>
> Dave wrote: "...for us all to support only great dealers who are honorable
> and worthy of our business."
>
> I think most of us agree in general with that statement. (Not counting
> meteorites purchased from finders, traded from museums or university, et
al
> ).
>
> I would say the bigger problem here is with the europeans sellers, who are
> not as public as the US sellers. It takes one years to learn who is
> "honorable and worthy" in europe, simply because they tend to stay to
> themselves somewhat. And there are many "honorable and worthy" sellers
> overseas.
>
> Also, if I can give a little critism on Michael's article, it would be on
> his need for giant fonts. Smaller fonts would allow a whole paragraph to
> fit on the screen at once, which would make it easier to read, and in the
> case of your website Michael, would make it so people can find what you
have
> for sale without great effort.
>
> Clear Skies,
> Mark Bostick
> www.meteoritearticles.com
>
>
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