[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Feb 16 12:19:23 2005
Message-ID: <20050216171921.54850.qmail_at_web50104.mail.yahoo.com>

Its the time De Russe go out from the world of the
meteorites....with her fakes its under ruin the
reputation of many scientific persons

Matteo


 --- Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net> ha
scritto:
> Mr DeRusse,
> I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how
> things could get much
> better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly
> doubt the Dean of TCU
> could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann.
> In fact, I do believe I
> will contact the dean today, to see whether what you
> say is true.
> Department of Geology
> Texas Christian University
> TCU Box 298830
> Fort Worth, Texas 76129
> Phone: (817) 257-7270
> Fax: (817) 257-7789
> Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair
>
> Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at
> TCU.
> Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake
> meteorite is telling
> the truth?
> My money is on lying.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
>
>
> >
> > Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> > There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of
> > anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just
> > reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean. We
> > did not say Mr. Ehlmann was not a nice person to
> you. In fact we do not
> > agree with much of what the dean said to us about
> him, but the dean has a
> > different opinion obviously from experience. Our
> experience is related and
> > somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your anger has quite
> > a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough
> to change the facts.
> > Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get
> better eventually.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > S. Ray DeRusse
> > www.bccmeteorites.com
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
> > Michael Farmer wrote:
> >
> >> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a
> >> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> >> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better
> >> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest collections
> >> for decades.
> >> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites" in
> >> a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will not
> >> turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter
> how much you wish.
> >> Sincerely
> >> Mike Farmer
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
> >> To: "Notkin" <geoking_at_notkin.net>
> >> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >>
> >>
> >>> Greetings List;
> >>>
> >>> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a
> >>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in
> >>> which he informed me that among other things,
> Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a
> >>> geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an old
> >>> man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite
> >>> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't necessarily
> >>> agree with everything he Dean said. But it
> matters not much since in my
> >>> view this award has very little meaning attached
> to it because of the
> >>> group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination
> >>> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism
> >>> scheme and showering of affection work for a
> group who even his
> >>> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you
> include the Dean's
> >>> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
> nilly to keep misconduct
> >>> and racism a fertile nesting ground in
> planetary science?
> >>>
> >>> Cordially,
> >>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >>> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>>
>
____________________________________________________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> Notkin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson show.
> >>>> This was my first show as a legal resident of
> the great state of
> >>>> Arizona and it was a very different experience
> for me. I had a house
> >>>> full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met with
> >>>> clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded for a few
> >>>> collection pieces, and generally ran around
> like a lunatic taking care
> >>>> of a million things for nearly three weeks. I
> think it was more fun
> >>>> when I used come out here for a vacation each
> February . . . but then I
> >>>> had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
> part wasn't so fun
> >>>> : )
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB and
> >>>> myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party
> and Harvey Awards. The
> >>>> consensus was that the new venue (The Copper
> Club, inside the Arizona
> >>>> Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
> venues, and I agree. Our
> >>>> many guests were able to move around and
> socialize, instead of being
> >>>> pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while
> experiencing lousy
> >>>> waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly
> enjoyed having a stage
> >>>> from which to present the Harvey Awards. We
> will return to the Copper
> >>>> Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >>>>
> >>>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dr. Art Ehlmann -- Lifetime achievement
> >>>> Michael Blood -- Ambassador award
> >>>> Mike Miller -- Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Ruben Garcia -- Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Sonny Clary -- Rookie of the year!
> >>>> Jose Guggiari -- Best new meteorite find
> >>>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson -- Lifetime achievement
> >>>>
> >>>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime
> >>>> achievement award : ) There are many other
> deserving people in our
> >>>> community, so stay tuned for next year's
> awards!
> >>>>
> >>>> Low point of the show this year was when
> somebody stole one of our
> >>>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior
> to the awards ceremony.
> >>>> It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to
> our thief -- we did not
> >>>> have an award to give to our final recipient
> (E.T.), but I was able to
> >>>> make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room
> before he left for
> >>>> Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a
> hot item, but COME ON
> >>>> that's pretty low. We're going to make a
> special "Jackass of the Year"
> >>>> certificate for the person who stole the award,
> and
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