[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Feb 16 12:03:18 2005
Message-ID: <00e301c51449$67103250$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

Mr DeRusse,
I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how things could get much
better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly doubt the Dean of TCU
could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann. In fact, I do believe I
will contact the dean today, to see whether what you say is true.
Department of Geology
Texas Christian University
TCU Box 298830
Fort Worth, Texas 76129
Phone: (817) 257-7270
Fax: (817) 257-7789
Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair

Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at TCU.
Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake meteorite is telling
the truth?
My money is on lying.


----- Original Message -----
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
To: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


>
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean. We
> did not say Mr. Ehlmann was not a nice person to you. In fact we do not
> agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean has a
> different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is related and
> somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your anger has quite
> a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to change the facts.
> Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better eventually.
>
> Cordially,
>
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
> ____________________________________________________________________________________________
> Michael Farmer wrote:
>
>> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a
>> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
>> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better
>> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest collections
>> for decades.
>> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" in
>> a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will not
>> turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
>> Sincerely
>> Mike Farmer
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd_at_ispwest.com>
>> To: "Notkin" <geoking_at_notkin.net>
>> Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
>>
>>
>>> Greetings List;
>>>
>>> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
>>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in
>>> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a
>>> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old
>>> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite
>>> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily
>>> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my
>>> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the
>>> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination
>>> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism
>>> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his
>>> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's
>>> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct
>>> and racism a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
>>> www.bccmeteorites.com
>>> ____________________________________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Notkin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends and Listees:
>>>>
>>>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson show.
>>>> This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of
>>>> Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house
>>>> full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with
>>>> clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few
>>>> collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care
>>>> of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun
>>>> when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then I
>>>> had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun
>>>> : )
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and
>>>> myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The
>>>> consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona
>>>> Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our
>>>> many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being
>>>> pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy
>>>> waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage
>>>> from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper
>>>> Club next year if the hotel remains open.
>>>>
>>>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Art Ehlmann -- Lifetime achievement
>>>> Michael Blood -- Ambassador award
>>>> Mike Miller -- Best new meteorite find
>>>> Ruben Garcia -- Best new meteorite find
>>>> Sonny Clary -- Rookie of the year!
>>>> Jose Guggiari -- Best new meteorite find
>>>> Edwin "E.T." Thompson -- Lifetime achievement
>>>>
>>>> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime
>>>> achievement award : ) There are many other deserving people in our
>>>> community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
>>>>
>>>> Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our
>>>> Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards ceremony.
>>>> It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- we did not
>>>> have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I was able to
>>>> make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he left for
>>>> Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but COME ON
>>>> that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of the Year"
>>>> certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll leave it out
>>>> on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and Jim
>>>> Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which they
>>>> very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best ever.
>>>> Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend Geoff
>>>> Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us drinks
>>>> during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a very
>>>> talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess *and*
>>>> absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.
>>>>
>>>> As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with
>>>> the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. Allan
>>>> Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked everyone
>>>> by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the tie isn't
>>>> so bad.
>>>>
>>>> It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi,
>>>> after many years of friendly correspondence. Monnig Gallery Director
>>>> Teresa Moss and her husband Lane made their first visit to the show,
>>>> and it was particularly nice to see them here, as Teresa, Dr. Ehlmann,
>>>> and I have worked closely together on the Monnig Gallery website.
>>>>
>>>> Another highlight for me was spending time with genius inventor Bill
>>>> Mason. My girlfriend and I joined him for dinner just last night, and
>>>> Bill gave me a personal class in working with his meteorite rust
>>>> prevention kit. You shoulda seen what it did to my rusty old Brahin!
>>>> This product is truly amazing, and if you haven't tried it, you should.
>>>> I must also mention that Bill was the recipient of this year's Charles
>>>> H. Sternberg Medal from the paleontology community and the good people
>>>> at AAPS (www.aaps.net). This is an extremely high honor, very well
>>>> deserved, and I'm sure Bill's many friends in the meteorite community
>>>> will join me in congratulating him on this fine achievement.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, we owe a big vote of thanks to Allan Lang, Bob Haag, and the
>>>> other exhibitors at the Westward Look Resort who financed a special
>>>> event which made it possible for many of us to listen to, and meet,
>>>> famed astronaut Harrison "Jack" Schmitt on Sunday, Feb. 6. What a
>>>> superb afternoon that was!
>>>>
>>>> It was great to see so many of you out here, and I apologize to those
>>>> friends whom I saw only briefly or not at all. You'll just have to come
>>>> out for a longer visit next year. Oh yes . . . and Dr. Joel Schiff, I
>>>> expect see you here for Tucson 2006. There is no Harvey Award for
>>>> "Meteorite" magazine until you come out here to receive it in person
>>>> (that's because we all want to see you again) : )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards to all,
>>>>
>>>> Geoff N.
>>>> (trying to catch up with "real" work in Tucson)
>>>>
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