[meteorite-list] Mutha Stone

From: Arizona Skies Meteorites <johnbirdsell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat Dec 31 01:41:15 2005
Message-ID: <20051231064112.23679.qmail_at_web51511.mail.yahoo.com>

Aaaaah come on Mike...don't you think its time to come
clean? Its ok dude, no one will be tooooo jealous when
they find out you own the main mass (oooops, did I say
that?)


;-)



-John



--- Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
wrote:

> Dean, I DO NOT own a gram of Fukang, so Adam is not
> trying to mess with me.
> Again, I will not have any of that meteorite for
> sale
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Tucson. I dont know
> who will since they keep is a major secret.
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dean bessey" <deanbessey_at_yahoo.com>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mutha Stone
>
>
> > Geez adam are you going to start up this BS again?
> > Seems you do it every time you want to try and
> screw
> > farmer or some other dealer that you currently
> have
> > some tiff with or just to claim that "My
> meteorites
> > are better than everybody elses meteorites and
> (Like
> > the moronic pellisons meteorites) worth 10 times
> as
> > much as everybody elses. Do you have sour grapes
> > because farmer has a shit load of the stuff for
> tucson
> > and you dont and you just cant stand farmer having
> all
> > the fun?
> > The more proper question to ask is "Were they
> > illegally exported from china and are they now
> legal
> > in the USA"? This means (among other things) that
> does
> > china and the USA have a repatriation agreement
> > involving meteorites? Does any of the SAR regions
> laws
> > come into play? And other things also I am sure.
> > If you want to know contact customs, the chinese
> > embassy ect? Maybe then you would be contributing
> > something to the list as I am sure everybody
> would
> > love a report.
> > You keep bring this up about morocco whenever you
> want
> > to make things difficult for some other dealer (Or
> > just want to make yourself sound holy) - even
> though
> > you or anybody else can easily contact the
> Moroccan
> > embassy and ask (Who will tell you meteorites are
> > legal to export without any paperwork - But Dont
> > anybody take my word for it as I am not
> guaranteeing
> > anything - call up and ask yourself). This is also
> > true of most moroccan fossils - except Dinosaur
> > fossils. All dinosaur teeth that you see in Tucson
> > were illegally exported. However, convuleted
> cultural
> > property laws laws dont necessarily mean that the
> > teeth were illegally imported into the USA or that
> > there is a problem having them. I am not even sure
> > that there is a firm ruling on that. I am sure
> that
> > there are other things involving this that I am
> not
> > familiar with also.
> > You brought this up about Oman a while back
> (Again,
> > partly to try and screw over farmer after he found
> a
> > lunar) even though Oman does not have meteorite
> laws
> > on their books. The guys who had trouble in Oman
> got
> > in trouble over immigration and mining laws - not
> that
> > they had meteorites. Most arab countries has
> resource
> > laws making it illegal to remove so much as a bit
> of
> > sand from the desert if they wanted to nail you
> for
> > something.
> > And entering most countries with plans to make
> money
> > on a tourist visa is usually illegal.
> > That dont make exporting meteorites illegal even
> if
> > they were confiscated as contraband.
> > I dont know the chinese meteorite laws. In fact I
> have
> > been two years fighting it out with the cultural
> > people trying to get a ruling on chinese fossil
> laws
> > and I can tell you that even there there is
> > conflicting, overlapping and grey areas in the
> legal
> > system. And the fact that Australian courts
> recently
> > decided to reverse 2000 yaers of legal rulings
> used in
> > most of the industrialized world reversing the
> > "Innocent unless proven guilty" into "Guilty until
> > proven innocent" dont make Chinese meteorite laws
> > illegal in the USA.
> > That meteorite may or may not have been illegally
> > exported from china. I dont know. I dont have a
> part
> > in it and dont really want any part of that
> meteorite.
> > But I do know that you brought up this topic (Yet
> > again) for no reason other than to try and screw
> over
> > farmer in tucson as he tries to sell it.
> > If you are worried about the legality I suggest
> you
> > stay away from the rock. Let farmer take the risks
> > involved in selling it. But dont be a scumbag and
> try
> > and screw his sales by blowing hot air.
> > Sincerely
> > DEAN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On the subject of the Fukang Mutha Stone, how was
> >> this legally exported from
> >> China?
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
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