[meteorite-list] Mutha Stone

From: Michael Farmer <meteoritehunter_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Dec 30 23:46:50 2005
Message-ID: <001801c60dc5$33ffac30$0200a8c0_at_S0031628003>

I did not lose out nor try to purchase the Fukang meteorite (although it was
offered to me, I knew from the start it would be too much hassle to deal
with). I know that two years ago Chinese fossils were in every other room in
Tucson and other gem shows. I know now that when you try to find a Chinese
fossil dealer, you had better start looking for mass graves in China or in
prison.
    I could care less about Fukang, but what does interest me, is the fact
that even though it was for sale last year in Tucson, the owners are all
being as tight lipped as the White House regarding the CIA leak. If I had
possession of the largest Pallasite in the world, I would be marketing the
crap out of it, yet the owners are remaining silent.
    I said there were pieces in Munich, and you and others tried everything
to dispel that fact and how much there was. What is your motive for that?
The thing about Fukang is the silence and the lack of information being
released by the owners, yet the anger when people talk about it. We see
another example of that with your email, you claim not to own it, yet are
angry at someone commenting about it.
Mike Farmer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arizona Skies Meteorites" <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mutha Stone


> Hi Adam, that is an interesting question. It is
> interesting because Chinese meteorites have been
> exported from China for decades if not hundreds of
> years. Chinese meteorites have been at all of the gem
> and mineral shows across this country for decades. In
> fact, I would go as far as to bet that every list
> member has a Chinese meteorite or two in their
> collection. How many do you have in your collection
> Adam? I'm curious as to the motive for your sudden
> "interest" in Chinese meteorites. The information that
> we have received from reliable sources in China that
> there aren't any regulations governing the export of
> meteorites from China period. Fossils yes, meteorites
> no. Of course this may change in the future, and we
> have heard from a source in China that some efforts
> are being made by a few to try to start regulating
> meteorites as well. I suspect that your "information"
> is incorrect. Of course, if you could provide the list
> with a written copy of this "specific" legislation
> that you are referring to, I'm sure that we could get
> it translated into english within a day or two, and we
> could all see for ourselves. We would all learn
> something if you would do that for us. In the absence
> of that though, it is difficult to envision why China
> would have a specific "law" to regulate the export of
> Rusty Nantans, which are basically the only meteorite
> that would be exported from China. The fact that all
> of the gem and mineral shows are full of Chinese
> meteorites tends to suggest that there is no such law.
> I find it a bit odd that you'd claim to be interested
> in exporting meteorites from China as there really
> hasn't been much to export from China with the
> exception of rusty old Nantans. Is that what you were
> going to export? Of course there were the five or six
> rare Chinese meteorites such as those on Mike Farmer's
> website, but these are rare, and would be unavialable
> to you. Which Chinese meteorites were you planning on
> exporting Adam?
> We find the amount of b.s. being posted about
> fukang is quite interesting. I guess it must be just
> be jealousy on the part of the dealers that tried
> unsucessfully to purchase it from the finder. I guess
> they figure if they couldn't get it then they would
> try to malign it in an attempt to devalue it. We of
> course lost out too, but we can't fathom the extreme
> enmity that has been directed towards the people that
> ended up puchasing that meteorite-it is really quite
> sad. Adam, you seem to have an inordinate amount of
> interest in fukang. Just out of curiosity, were you
> one of those individuals that tried unsucessfully to
> purchase it? We know of several other list members
> that tried unsucessfully, and now seem to be suffering
> from the sour grape syndrome. Are you also interested
> in Sikhote? I notice that you are selling quite a few
> Sikhotes. Are you also curious about export
> regulations for them too?
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> --- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I only asked because China has specific laws
> prohibiting the export of
> meteorites and fossils. A company I work for was
> interested in bringing
> them
> out legally but China has a no-deal policy, even if
> you represent a
> museum.
>
> No paperwork other than an invoice, a declaration and
> a waybill is
> required
> from Morocco although a well know dealer from Europe
> tried to change
> all of
> this a few years back. He only ended up screwing
> himself in the long
> run.
>
> I ask again, how was a meteorite legally exported from
> China who has
> specific laws against such actions?
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
>
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