[meteorite-list] baygorria vs. campo

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <mcomemeteorite2004_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Dec 8 16:30:02 2005
Message-ID: <20051208212945.96727.qmail_at_web26202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Baygorria (iron meteorite IAB), Rio Negro Province,
Uruguay. Found
1994 July 8. A single mass, ~80 kg, was found in a
grass field near
Baygorria dam. Classification
(F. Wlotzka, MPI, Mainz) and analysis (B. Spettel, Max
Planck Inst.
f r Chemie, Mainz, Germany): Ni, 6.5%; Co, 0.43%; Ga
97.8 ppm; Ge,
10.9 ppm; Ir, 3.69 ppm; composition similar to Campo
del Cielo

Matteo

--- Rob Wesel <nakhladog_at_comcast.net> ha scritto:

> It will take a scientist to make the determination
> on Baygorria. The
> partslices of Baygorria on my website were cut by
> Marlin Cilz from the
> single mass classified as Baygorria several years
> ago. They were not
> purchased at the Tucson show. Could there be a
> little Port Orford going on
> here, sure. Any scientist wanting to take it on...I
> will lend the material
> for study. Obviously, the Tucson situation has
> damaged my sales of my
> material but I don't plan to take it down or change
> the name any time soon
> as it was CLASSIFIED as Baygorria.
>
> Rob Wesel
> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
> ------------------
> We are the music makers...
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>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] baygorria vs. campo
>
>
> > Hi List Members,
> >
> > Martin asked about the similarities between NWA
> 849 and Campo with this
> > statement:
> >
> > **************************************************
> > And can me someone tell me details about NWA 849
> vs. Campo?
> > http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/HB2W.jpg
> > Looks so similar and the values are so similar.
> > **************************************************
> >
> > Coordinates were provided for NWA 849 by the
> Aronsons of Sahara Overland
> > and I believe this piece was studied at UCLA. I
> am sure if UCLA suspected
> > this material was Campo they would have noted this
> since they run into
> > Campo
> > all time according to an article I read in
> Meteorite Magazine. I have had
> > nothing but honest business dealings with Sahara
> Overland and have no
> > reason
> > to doubt the meteorites origin. There are a few
> other high-integrity
> > dealers
> > like the Jensens who also carry NWA 849. IAB
> Course octahedrites are one
> > of
> > the most common Iron type meteorites out there so
> the provenance is very
> > important.
> >
> > In the Case of Baygorria, it is my belief that
> these are all definitely
> > paired to Campo del Cielo. The dealers who brought
> this material to Tucson
> > admitted the fraud to Mike Farmer in Spanish which
> Mike speaks fluently.
> > Not
> > only that, the entry in the Meteoritical Bulletin
> states that they are
> > similar in composition. Given the heterogeneity of
> iron meteorites and the
> > slight differences in calibration of equipment
> used to study them, I would
> > state the original Baygorria consisting of a
> single stone and Campo del
> > Cielo are virtually identical.
> >
> > All course octahedrites are susceptible to
> weathering because of the
> > relatively low nickel content so this cannot be
> used to distinguish them
> > from one another. Only one Baygorria has ever been
> submitted for lab work
> > and was determined to be similar to Campo del
> Cielo, everything else is a
> > fraud.
> >
> > Expressing my opinion, if in doubt, check it out!
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> > Adam Hupe
> > The Hupe Collection
> > Team LunarRock
> > IMCA 2185
> > raremeteorites_at_comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin Altmann"
> <altmann_at_meteorite-martin.de>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] baygorria vs. campo
> >
> >
> >> And can me someone tell me details about NWA 849
> vs. Campo?
> >> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/HB2W.jpg
> >> Looks so similar and the values are so similar.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!"
> <steve_arnol60120_at_yahoo.com>
> >> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:07 PM
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] baygorria vs. campo
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello list.Can someone answer this for
> me?BAYGORRIA VS. CAMPO!They look
> >> > alike.They say it is similar in composition.Yet
> 2 different
> > strewnfields.I
> >> > saw a slew of baygorria pieces on ebay and am
> just wondering,has the
> >> > analysis come in yet for this meteorite?I hear
> that they are just
> >> > campos
> >> > and someone has put another name on them.I know
> that they are
> >> > meteorites,but I know of 1 good place to get
> campos,for myself,no
> >> > reason
> >> > to get more using another name.HELP!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > STEVE
> ARNOLD,CHICAGO
> >> >
> >> > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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