[meteorite-list] Sahara 99555, a "Rosetta Stone"! OT: Tired of untruths!/ Reply

From: drtanuki <drtanuki_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Aug 31 17:18:42 2005
Message-ID: <20050831211840.7308.qmail_at_web53210.mail.yahoo.com>

Dear List and Luc,
  How can you say that you are protecting anything
"from people like you"? Exactly what are people like
you? Honest and open to the meteoritic community. I
have only been to the Sahara once and do not plan to
return. Honest meteorite hunters have openly shared
their information because they have nothing to hide.
As for "Gan Gan" you will have to explain what you are
talking about, as I do not know.

As for this being petty; I think not. Several of us,
including myself, your customers, purchased thousands
of dollars of meteorites from you with the "PROMISE"
that you would release the coordinates in the near
future. You have NOT kept your word. I recall your
famous paper with numbers and partial coordinates that
you were using to command high prices at the Tucson
show in 1997 or 1998.

Changing your mind may be a fine answer for you to
come up with, but I think NOT. You made sales based
on a promise and still have not done as you have said
you would. IS THERE ANY DATA OR WAS THIS A STORY MADE
UP TO SELL NWA material for a premium price?????

I am not interested in your Angrite or much of
anything the Labennes have to say or sell because they
are not honorable dealers, IMHO.

I still have not seen any other dealers complain
because maybe they are afraid of losing money on what
they have purchased from you. For me, the priciple is
more inportant than the money I stand to lose from the
purchases that I made from you. Will you buy back the
several thousands of dollars of meteorites that I have
purchased from you???? I doubt it.

Who is Mr. Labenne?

Yes this needs to be out in the open so that other
customers do not get cheated and lied to in the
future. Tired of untruths!!!!!!!!!!

I do not mean to be speaking to his two sons; I
believe they are honest. Ciao, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

And drop the line of "Meteorites for Science,
Education and Collectors" this is hollow.


--- "luc Meteorites.tv / Labenne Luc"
<labennemeteorites_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dirk,
>
> Yes, we changed our mind about publishing the
> coordinates of our meteorites
> since we found the first ones in 1997, a long time
> before the rush to
> meteorites in hot deserts. The relative coordinates
> are known, and that's
> enough to study pairing. We've decided not to
> publish the rest yet in order
> to protect these areas from people like you.
>
> I noticed that you made no comment whatsoever about
> the article published in
> Nature - and am comforted in my idea that you have
> little or no interest in
> the scientific value of meteorites. If there is any
> fraud in the meteorite
> community, it comes from people purchasing
> meteorites found by others and
> giving them exotic names like Gan Gan, so it's
> easier to sell. Remember??
>
> If you want to clean house and don't have anything
> constructive to publish
> on this list, the best thing you can do is keep your
> petty comments and
> infighting to yourself.
>
> Sincerely,
> Luc
>
> Labenne Meteorites
> Meteorites for Science, Education & Collectors
> http://www.meteorites.tv
>
>
> Labenne Meteorites
> Meteorites for Science, Education & Collectors
> http://www.meteorites.tv
>
>
> >From: drtanuki <drtanuki_at_yahoo.com>
> >To: info_at_meteorites.tv,
> meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sahara 99555,a
> "Rosetta Stone"! OT: Tired of
> >untruths!
> >Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:01:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Dear Luc and List,
> > Luc Labenne, here is your chance to come clean
> on
> >your supposed "to be announced" COORDINATES that
> have
> >NEVER been ANNOUNCED. It has been more than five
> >years since your Sahara series was used to sell
> your
> >meteorites at a premium price; make open your data
> or
> >prove yourselves as LIERS to the meteorite
> community.
> >Prove your claims or disappear from the face of the
> >meteorite community please. Merci.
> >Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo
> >
> >It is time to clean house of Meteorite Fraud in the
> >meteorite community.
> >
> >--- "luc Meteorites.tv / Labenne Luc"
> ><labennemeteorites_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi List,
> > >
> > > A very important new paper on our angrite
> SAH99555
> > > (Sahara 99555, a 2710g
> > > single stone with black fusion crust found by
> our
> > > team in May 1999) was
> > > published in the last issue of the scientific
> > > journal Nature. In the words
> > > of co-authors Joel Baker, Director of Geology
> School
> > > of Earth Sciences,
> > > University of Wellington, NEW ZEALAND, and
> Martin
> > > Bizarro, Leader, MC-ICP-MS
> > > Laboratory, University of Copenhagen, DENMARK :
> > > ?Your angrite meteorite find
> > > SAH9955 is now the oldest absolutely dated
> igneous
> > > rock in the Solar System,
> > > has clear evidence for the former presence of
> > > short-lived 26Al in it (which
> > > caused planetesimal melting), and very likely
> will
> > > become the "Rosetta
> > > Stone" for early Solar System chronology?E>
> > > Baker and Bizzarro are now able to show that
> > > achondrite planetesimals formed
> > > before chondrite planetesimals.
> > >
> > > More on the following link
> > > http://www.meteorites.tv/contents/en-us/d70.html
> > >
> > > Note that we have added some pieces of the
> Sahara
> > > 99555 for sale on this
> > > page.
> > >
> > > Luc
> > >
> > > Labenne Meteorites
> > > Meteorites for Science, Education & Collectors
> > > http://www.meteorites.tv
> > >
> > >
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